Comments on: We need a new Pakistan-U.S. relationship http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: suzukimehran http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-38031 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:42:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-38031 It is time we learnt that the US does not need Pakistan and india do not trust the pakistani isi. i belived that india helps the terrorists.in the time all we being a pakistani weak up because America cannot expect Pakistan to chase its insurgents. To expect Pakistan to disentangle its ties with local jihadi groups is unrealistic at this time .America is ready to ateck the pakistan

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By: mrfaaiz http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-35178 Sat, 28 May 2011 11:29:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-35178 At the end ties between both the countries are soured these days and American officials are frequently visiting the country to review and consolidate them. Nevertheless America added fuel to fire as now it is looking forward to some political settlements with Afghan Taliban thinking staying close with the bad guys will help to catch bad guys .This will go again in the disfavor of Pakistan as the war will go inconsequential after a long struggle accompanied with plenty of sacrifices . It will lead to further anti-American sentiments in the nation and defame of the ruling party.
It seems from the several incidents that two countries are having cold war because both are good opportunists whenever time comes. Now America wants to know if Pakistan is still committed to continue war against terrorism or not. This is actually an indirect question to know Pakistan’s response towards the American calls after all the wounds. Pakistan should answer in affirmation as it is the need of the hour. Pakistan is facing a total crisis situation due to inefficient and insensitive government and without support of a super power getting out of it will become inevitable. On the other side Americans must not disregard all the efforts and sacrifices Pakistan has made to prove its commitments and dedication towards the mutual goal of terrorism elimination. The CIA officials and their offices in the country without proper visas, drone attacks and the not shared attack of Navy SEAL are the manifestations of honoring commitments.
Read about the America’s new question
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Read about COAS Kiyani ‘s answer
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By: coyotle http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-35018 Mon, 23 May 2011 15:02:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-35018 SOFA and bilateral agreements for and with the United States keeps military and government personnel as well as U.S. citizens from being arrested and tried for war crimes in international courts. Where is the WMD in Iraq? Where was Bin Laden?

RS108, Christianity started off as a Jewish sect. Are not Europeans and and those in the Americas converts too? And if so, do they not deserve the disdain you hold for the Pakistanis?

If one wishes to talk about terrorism one only needs to examine the thousands of bombings of African American churches and Mosques over the past for decades. Jewish and Arab leaders have been targeted for assassination. Let us not forget the linchings and chaining people to vehicles by Klan and other right wing individuals just because they are not white Christians.

The united states will see 12,000 of it’s citizens die from guns alone this year. This is more than the entire industrialized world will see in 10 years. Our health care system leaves tens of thousands to die for lack of health care. Our prisons and jails are overcrowded with the mentally ill, the disabled and people of color for the crime of not being able to afford competent legal council. Clearly the U.S. should focus more on cleaning up it’s on back yard.

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By: manishindia http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34726 Sat, 07 May 2011 07:10:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34726 Presence of Osama and his cronies in Islamabad proves the point that for Pakistanis, terrorism is a state policy and source of income from international community.

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By: greenv http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34721 Fri, 06 May 2011 10:48:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34721 Farhana Qasi has done her best to safeguard a bunch of liers in the Government, ISI and the Army in Pakistan. But the reality remains that nobody can save a failed state. Pakistan needs to be dismantled as of now.

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By: kc10man http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34715 Fri, 06 May 2011 00:46:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34715 Once we pull out of Afghanistan and let it return to fuedal rule, we will cut all funding to Pakistan and it’s multiple personality disorder leadership.

They know it and we know it so the Pakistanis have no reason to support our war against the Taliban.

If they were to crush the Taliban which the ISI could easily do, it would open the door (at least in the minds of politicians) for Indian influence.

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By: RS108 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34714 Fri, 06 May 2011 00:41:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34714 At the heart of Pakistan’s problem is Islam. Pakistan is a nation of converts. The sole identity is that they seek to be super Arabs. They even use Arab font! They seek to deny their past. Their ancestors were all Hindu, and the fact of a booming India (with a sizeable Hindu majority) irks them. Their entire ethos is that they are not India. Pakistan is facing an existential crisis.

VS Naipaul stated this dilemma elegantly when he wrote:

“Islam is in its origin an Arab religion. Everyone not an Arab who is a Muslim is a convert. Islam is not simply a matter of conscience or private belief. It makes imperial demands. A convert’s worldview alters. His holy places are in Arab lands. His sacred language is Arabic. His idea of history alters. He rejects his own: he becomes, whether he likes it or not, a part of the Arab story. The convert has to turn away from everything that is his.”

The globe trotting elite of Pakistan like Ms Qazi make silly and nonsensical statements that India is a threat. Did India train and arm terrorist to go on a shooting spree in Pakistan? Another silly statement:

“To expect Pakistan to disentangle its ties with local jihadi groups is unrealistic at this time”

Why not? Did your corrupt military-jihadi-complex state not create and allow these groups to fester?

India wants to be left alone to pursue its growth agenda.

The US should not allow a single Pakistani to granted a Visa nor should the corrupt elite be allow to study in the US, let alone be allowed to write this gibberish which amounts to defending the indefensible.

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By: balancedcitizen http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34712 Thu, 05 May 2011 22:26:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34712 “America cannot expect Pakistan to chase its insurgents. To expect Pakistan to disentangle its ties with local jihadi groups is unrealistic at this time.”…I am confused by this statement. A sovereign country has the responsibility to stop “its jihadi groups from wrecking other lives. I repeat – RESPONSIBILITY. If it cannot achieve this goal, it cannot dictate terms of engagement in any relationship. The moderates in that country need to find their voice in some way. Technology today has offered them avenues. Playing the victim does not bode well for that effort.

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By: ger1c0 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34710 Thu, 05 May 2011 20:36:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34710 Pakistan doesn’t deserve to get aid from US. Only people who are dumb would trust Pakistan. They’re like a poisonous snake. I’ll not be surprised if the 3rd WW starts from there. They are in a grave situation, they might think attacking is the best form of defense and they might go in for misadventures. Now they have a new friend in CHINA. What do they have to loose, since they are already on the verge of bankruptcy and a confirmed failed state. So the world will have to look out.

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By: mexican184 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/04/we-need-a-new-pakistan-u-s-relationship/#comment-34708 Thu, 05 May 2011 18:47:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9169#comment-34708 I am very sceptical of this relationship the U.S. has with its Pakistan counterparts… so, many complex forces at work in Pakistani interests, that counter our own. I believe we can only go forward with them, hedging our bets along the way, by rewarding portions of those billions of dollars in aid, only when circumstances on the ground, i.e. like uprooting Afghan militants and their proxies, before the money can be handed over (over a phased period). Dollars have to be contingent on our interests being met with evidence of their actions, or willingness for joint-actions, where verified progress can be measured on the ground. Just my opinion.

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