Comments on: Rioters without a cause http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Biggles http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36514 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:48:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36514 I have read all the recent comments posted very carefully and as expected, there is a representative sprinkling of the usual left-wing liberal and Marxist apologists for the rioters and looters. Although I have mentioned the ethnicity of the rioters before, what no-one bothers to mention is that the rioters and looters are actually a very small minority of the population,(less than 1%) regardless of their ethnicity. The vast majority of people in this country are still hard-working, tax-paying individuals who respect the law, regardless in some cases, of the relative poverty of their situations and backgrounds. The looters were not ‘poor’ in the third world sense. None of the rioters were the shoeless, ragged, starving poor of Victorian times either. Many of them, I have no doubt, were simply spoiled,,unemployed creatures of the benefits culture, drug dealers and petty criminals who do not work because they consider it beneath them or simply ‘uncool’ and who live in council housing at the expense of those who actually do bother to get off their backsides to do an
honest day’s work.

Sorry to sound so negative but it’s about time someone actually started to tell the truth about the situation, instead of acting like breast-beating, hand-wringing liberal lefties, who will use any distorted sociological argument to excuse simple lawlessness and vandalising opportunism on the part of a disaffected minority who possess a wrong-headed and mistaken sense of entitlement (usually an ntitlement to other peoples possessions).

Biggles

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By: Biggles http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36510 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:09:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36510 Let’s be clear; the vast number of rioters were from ethnic minorities, notably the Afro-Caribbean community. People who deny this haven’t been watching the same TV news,CCTV films or reading the same newspapers as the rest of us across the UK. There were some white, Asian and mixed-race youths involved but they were in the minority. Probably 80% of those involved in rioting, looting and arson were black. This is not being racist but being truthful (which the mainstream politicians and the media refuse to be).

Perhaps politicians ought to be addressing this issue, which is a reflection of the nihilistic, ‘Gangsta’, rap culture embraced by many young blacks and also by many working-class white youths these days. Dr David Starkey has pointed this but has been pilloried by the usual suspects on the liberal left for telling the truth!

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By: seattlesh http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36253 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:17:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36253 After reading many of the well thought out posts here Badjer sums it up quite succinctly.

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By: doleguy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36247 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:54:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36247 You got it right pavlaki! The Chinese and Japanese usually work hard,enjoy their adopted country and do well in every venture they tackle, then when they are successful,the greedy blacks and whites try to take it away or belittle them.At least what I have seen,especially in Canada.The rest are trouble makers.

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By: Badjer http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36105 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:19:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36105 It’s very simple: People with jobs that pay a living wage don’t loot.

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By: dvstllrd http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36104 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:02:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36104 Yes, when you actually think of it, it probably seems somewhat obvious that even kids are more insecure and fearful when the global market is in the tank, especially but not only if the child in question has parents who are unemployed. I would bet even the family dog feels it. Economic insecurity translates to pervasive, societal angst; hence the societies with stronger social safety nets have lower social ills like murder, suicide, drug addiction, etc., and when the economy is bad some of those social ills increase.

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By: DrJJJJ http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36100 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:25:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36100 Rioters without a cause are anarchist with small brains, no morals and big egos! They should be forced to work off every dime it costs the rest of us and treated like the criminals they are! These are not freedom fighters, they’re criminals, similar to terrorist! Shoot first and ask questions later if they threaten to harm you!

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By: GusM http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36097 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:18:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36097 Uprisings don’t happen “without a cause”. People rise up against authority because they are unhappy with power structures. The greater the discontent, the smaller the precipitating event needs to be. And a “mission” isn’t needed at all – this is mob mentality we are taking about. Sometimes people can channel their dissatisfaction towards an obvious cause – that’s usually the case in countries with authoritarian regimes.

But other times, in countries where the real power structure (the “ruling caste”, if you’re a cynic) is so carefully disguised and protected behind the veneer of fair capitalism and democratic rule, people don’t have one person, one thing, or one institution on which to pin the blame. As we’re now learning, that isn’t enough to deter popular uprisings, it isn’t enough to stop people from sensing that they’re in the wrong team of a rigged game, and the stakes get raised with each passing day.

So now, we are closing in on the point where the slightest provocation is enough to bring out the claws on both sides – all that remains to be seen is who will go for the jugular first, the government or the people it tries to control.

Nothing drastic will change here because of these riots alone, but how the government reacts to this situation may well set the tone of popular opinion that either tips the scales towards balance, or chaos.

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By: EFirdawsi http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36095 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:51:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36095 Old white man has things to say, doesn’t want to bother investigating into the root causes like a real journalist. Does that about sum it up? Did it ever occur to you that the “looters” who are supposedly too young to be in the labor market might be following the lead of the adults who have genuine qualms? I think you forgot to start this opinion piece with “Back in my day…”

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By: Mott http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/10/rioters-without-a-cause/#comment-36094 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:42:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=9863#comment-36094 @BowMtnSpirit: Excellent perspective – very well put and heard.

“Because you refuse to see, you are surprised and bewildered..”

Many of the calamities are preventable provided we take the time to understand the root-cause of the outburst and adress it compassionately.

Very few have the clarity to put things together, see the big-picture, understand the root-causes and act compassionately. This comes naturally to the few and sayings of these selfless few are profound and their thoughts are noble. The world (MSM or other) may try to run hectic but will come surely, to face the outcomes seen by these few even then, fail to see the root-cause nor the needed understanding.

I think you may enjoy reading a book such as – “The Book of Mirdad” authored by Mikhail Naimy, where an unprecedented level of clarity and synthesis of the opposites is presented against the ignorance of the selfish mainstream.

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