Comments on: Jobs made Apple great by ignoring profit http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: gprovida http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-43803 Wed, 09 May 2012 23:39:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-43803 I agree this is so hard to do. Apple grew into this in the big, iPod, iPhone, and iPad, but in many small ways dumping the Mini-iPod for solid state Nano-iPod, dumping the floppy drive in iMacs, dumping ADB for USB, dumping SCSI for Firewire, dumping ethernet for WiFi [remember Apple first Airport was 5X cheaper than competitors], dumping CD/DVD drive for MacBook Air, not jumping on Blueray, etc.

In other words, in a host of small ways Apple made the choice to disrupt itself – this helped build the culture. When you look at Apple’s competitors, they never never make that leap. Whether in a big or small way and then later try mimic Apple or in the case own SAMSUNG be a quick follower, but even there they can’t make the break, stylus on a fat cell phone?

Where I run into a problem is understanding the job to be done that Apple consciously or unconsciously does. Is it “build the stuff we want” the way to think about jobs to be done in a practical sense?

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By: sinzone http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-41673 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:56:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-41673 Amazon never has.

You will see the rise of AMZN in the next decade.

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By: timeormoney http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-39473 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:04:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-39473 In my humble opinion I wish to point out what has made me in my own small way both succesfull and very happy. I believe that what the authors were trying to get accross is well summed up in the old adage – What came first, the chicken or the egg? Most , if not all the people around me seem to live for money or profit at the expense of passion or lifestyle. With Steve Jobs it seems that passion, not money or profit came first. This does not mean that money or profit did not exist, but that simply, it is pushed into second place. His focus was passion and product first, profit secondary. An article I read recently on the
“Lifestyle Entrepeneur” summed up my outlook on life. At any stage in life, one can choose a certain way to live, with dreams, goals and a lifestyle. Then work hard to earn the required funds necessary to live that chosen lifestyle or passion. Most people I know seem to let the pursuit of money and profit dictate their lifestyle, goals, passions and dreams and relegate these into second place to the extent of ignoring them. Therefore in conclusion, it is not whether profit, money, passion or dreams is what makes us exist, like it made Steve Jobs exist,
or work towards, but the way we prioritize them. Passion and dreams should always trump money and profit…

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By: rinacio http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-38161 Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:34:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-38161 Well, the only thing I do not agree in this article is when they say about their own employees want to use it. What employees? The development ones right? Because in China where the products are made they are totally out of the blue, no social life, just slaves shift of 12 hours job 7 days a week.And don’t tell is not true, I’ve been there I saw and many of them are committing suicide. Nonetheless, Yes Apple is a Great Brand and for sure a good Company to work for.

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By: gambler69 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-37022 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:21:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-37022 This article is laughable… Not even worth a reply, but here I am… Oh, by the way, Steve. Now that you have billions, could you spare a penny in dividend? NO ! But, alas, it is not about profit, is it? Oh, and certainly not about stock options… LOL.. What a crock this writer has churned out for cyberspace !

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By: gregb11 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-37009 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:24:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-37009 I completely agree. So many are merely focussed on tech specs and ignore build quality and components used to create the unique products they put out.

Apple may set a price but its the market that dictates whether price is justified or not. Very simple,, if its priced right, it will sell, if its not, it won’t. Windows people don’t get it, people who buy by and love their products do. No, they aren’t under a magic spell that Apple put out and no, they aren’t handcuffed using inferior technology in an effort to be cool. Just maybe, and this is a hard concept to get,,, but just maybe, the products fulfill their needs.

Wow, what a concept.

To close, it goes back to the windows/Apple argument, Windows people are concerned with features, whether or not they actually need them, Apple focuses on less features but superior user experience.

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By: Nullcorp http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-37008 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:57:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-37008 One of the comments above said that “an Apple iMac almost always costs around twice as much as a factory-assembled Windows PC.” But, as the many comments in this article show, profit and price are not the same. Apple machines cost more because they’re made of metal… because they last longer… because the company invests huge amounts into R&D so that their materials and manufacturing methods will set their devices apart from the flood of cheap plastic “me too” devices. Watch the documentary “Objectified” for some insight. Subjectively I feel that any additional cost is fully justified, you can’t compare a Dell to an Apple because there’s more to the machine than the technical specs.

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By: gregb11 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-36998 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:51:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-36998 Apple is not a perfect company. They experienced years of miss-steps, failed products and near bankruptcy. Jobs philosophies on business did not create an overnight success. Its last 10 yeas are its most successful. Apples learned from its mistakes. Jobs created his own vision of management and it took years and years to refine his style into something that works. They are now in a strong position. They have plenty of cash on hand. It would really take a stupid bad move to affect their growth. The question is whether Jobs style of management carry on in his absence. Me sense is yes, I believe he was able to instill his style in Apples culture. It doesn’t mean Tim Cook or anyone else will mimic Jobs, but it does mean the thought process that got the company where it is,,,,, is instilled in the company.

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By: purplelove http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-36992 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:06:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-36992 Some of the ideals I would not agree.It is true that everything will meet a failure one day.Apple had done aserels of right measure at the right time.But everyone will make a wrong step.

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By: gregb11 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/08/29/jobs-made-apple-great-by-ignoring-profit/#comment-36987 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:17:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=10150#comment-36987 I can’t help but reply to the last comment, which is wrong all around. The fact that you feel the stock is overpriced shows you have zero business experience. How do you define overpriced? Is because its $390.00 dollars a share? The stock trades at 11 times earning which is a discounted to the S&P. You will have to research what that means. Its nothing to do with fed policy. Apple isn’t innovative,,, if they aren’t who is? They did invent one of the first PCs so yes they did revolutionize the world. The government invented the internet, but Apple made it easily accessible via an easy to use intuitive interface. Innovation isn’t just about invention but also making the existing world around you easier to navigate. The company doesn’t even have a huge budget for marketing considering its size. So many can’t grasp the concept that Apple is just a successful company that fulfills consumers needs. They must come up with excuses as to why Apple is successful, any excuse except the fact that the company is just run well and putts out great products in an innovative way. It cant be that, the company must be number one in revenues by mistake,,, that’s it

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