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		<title>By: SteveWorks</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveWorks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why everyone is ignoring the very important factor of education. You cannot have peace by changing political regimes or taking away weapons. The only way is to make people realize that they are not right in their intolerant ways.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why everyone is ignoring the very important factor of education. You cannot have peace by changing political regimes or taking away weapons. The only way is to make people realize that they are not right in their intolerant ways.<br />
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		<title>By: Facetruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haqqani has been and is CIA operator so Mr.David should ask what if CIA did all this. Fabricating evidence is so easy when you plan the event yourself, who knows who is talking to whom and who knows when and where it is recorded. There is no independent evidence of any event, it is all about what you want to hear.
ISI supported CIA covertly so many times and handed over Talibans and Al-Qaida in thousands so why not Haqqani?

In retrorespect do you remember Raymond Davis, where is this sharp shooter &quot;Diplomat&quot; as declared by Mr.Obama in his public speech. Have you tried him in USA as promised by Senator Kerry, after killing two innocents in Lahore. Mr. Raymond Davis(what ever his real name may be) did not even appeared in any court of Law in USA so are the Americans operatives allowed to freely kill some one in other part of World and return home safely with the help of American Consulate and be free?
Pakistanis are very lucky that Raymond Davis was caught and pubic pressure resulted in media led investigation about CIA contractors roaming in Pakistani cities. ISI helped his legal escape but more pleasant results emerged that suicide Bombings have almost stopped in Pakistani Cities after legal eviction of Raymond Davis and similar gang of contractors hired by CIA. Circumstantial evidence and events indicate that these CIA hired security contractors were the culprits behind arranging suicide bombings in Pakistani cities to frustrate the people and to give excuse to Government to keep aligned with CIA. Mr. Raymond Davis event provided the general public deep insight and forced Govt to (unwillingly) evict contractors like him which saved many lives. Do you know ISI role, they provided the lawyer and money to let Mr. Raymond Davis out !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haqqani has been and is CIA operator so Mr.David should ask what if CIA did all this. Fabricating evidence is so easy when you plan the event yourself, who knows who is talking to whom and who knows when and where it is recorded. There is no independent evidence of any event, it is all about what you want to hear.<br />
ISI supported CIA covertly so many times and handed over Talibans and Al-Qaida in thousands so why not Haqqani?</p>
<p>In retrorespect do you remember Raymond Davis, where is this sharp shooter &#8220;Diplomat&#8221; as declared by Mr.Obama in his public speech. Have you tried him in USA as promised by Senator Kerry, after killing two innocents in Lahore. Mr. Raymond Davis(what ever his real name may be) did not even appeared in any court of Law in USA so are the Americans operatives allowed to freely kill some one in other part of World and return home safely with the help of American Consulate and be free?<br />
Pakistanis are very lucky that Raymond Davis was caught and pubic pressure resulted in media led investigation about CIA contractors roaming in Pakistani cities. ISI helped his legal escape but more pleasant results emerged that suicide Bombings have almost stopped in Pakistani Cities after legal eviction of Raymond Davis and similar gang of contractors hired by CIA. Circumstantial evidence and events indicate that these CIA hired security contractors were the culprits behind arranging suicide bombings in Pakistani cities to frustrate the people and to give excuse to Government to keep aligned with CIA. Mr. Raymond Davis event provided the general public deep insight and forced Govt to (unwillingly) evict contractors like him which saved many lives. Do you know ISI role, they provided the lawyer and money to let Mr. Raymond Davis out !!!</p>
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		<title>By: JackPit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackPit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World Peace possible only through Khilafah, all Islamic Countries military heads should check Islamic History and work for Khilafah for peace of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World Peace possible only through Khilafah, all Islamic Countries military heads should check Islamic History and work for Khilafah for peace of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal20111</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal20111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming the ISI alone won&#039;t hack it. Found it quite telling that the headline quote in the Pak press, www.dawn.com, from the Pak Army Chief was that the US knows who else is involved in the Haqqani network but stopped short of saying who.  The US-ISI rift is an internal spat. There is lack of real political will and imagination, because the motives of those in power aren&#039;t aligned with what the common joe sees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming the ISI alone won&#8217;t hack it. Found it quite telling that the headline quote in the Pak press, <a href='http://www.dawn.com,'>http://www.dawn.com,</a> from the Pak Army Chief was that the US knows who else is involved in the Haqqani network but stopped short of saying who.  The US-ISI rift is an internal spat. There is lack of real political will and imagination, because the motives of those in power aren&#8217;t aligned with what the common joe sees.</p>
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		<title>By: neahkahnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>neahkahnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On point, EXCEPT let the Paks do it themselves.  Everytime someone else &quot;messes&quot; in another country&#039;s business, bad things happen to the country that &quot;messes.&quot; We wouldn&#039;t want anybody messing around in our business.  We have no right to mess in theirs.  The American Empires exists no longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On point, EXCEPT let the Paks do it themselves.  Everytime someone else &#8220;messes&#8221; in another country&#8217;s business, bad things happen to the country that &#8220;messes.&#8221; We wouldn&#8217;t want anybody messing around in our business.  We have no right to mess in theirs.  The American Empires exists no longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bludde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bludde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing too much, I am as biased as you, although I hold no grudge against Sirajuddin and his tribe. BUT I disagree with you on the means to the end. My solution, communicated to, and rejected by, Senator Kerry and VP Biden, in April 2009, is to cut off all Military aid to Pakistan, let the country default, and to covertly assist the Balochi Freedom Fighters to free Balochistan from the iron grip of the ISI. A free Balochistan,serves a double US purpose. A thorn in Iran&#039;s side as well as a severe blight on the ISI which will cause it to implode. They already lost East Pakistan/Bangladesh. Mullen is a Gentleman/Diplomat/Commander. Very nice man. Saw him with Holbrooke and Patterson &quot;explain&quot; the AfPak strategy to President Zardari in early April 2009 at the Presidential palace in Islamabad. Late that night, past midnight in the privacy of his Library, the President joked that the ISI anti-India obsession was honed by Musharaff and each officer had to swear to march into Srinagar and fly the flag atop the State Capital bldg, or die trying. It was the Mush that arranged for UBL to be holed up in a military cantonment, and Mullah Omar in Quetta, believing them safe, as a lure to keep US military aid flowing. UBL capture is a credit to Panetta who was not fooled...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing too much, I am as biased as you, although I hold no grudge against Sirajuddin and his tribe. BUT I disagree with you on the means to the end. My solution, communicated to, and rejected by, Senator Kerry and VP Biden, in April 2009, is to cut off all Military aid to Pakistan, let the country default, and to covertly assist the Balochi Freedom Fighters to free Balochistan from the iron grip of the ISI. A free Balochistan,serves a double US purpose. A thorn in Iran&#8217;s side as well as a severe blight on the ISI which will cause it to implode. They already lost East Pakistan/Bangladesh. Mullen is a Gentleman/Diplomat/Commander. Very nice man. Saw him with Holbrooke and Patterson &#8220;explain&#8221; the AfPak strategy to President Zardari in early April 2009 at the Presidential palace in Islamabad. Late that night, past midnight in the privacy of his Library, the President joked that the ISI anti-India obsession was honed by Musharaff and each officer had to swear to march into Srinagar and fly the flag atop the State Capital bldg, or die trying. It was the Mush that arranged for UBL to be holed up in a military cantonment, and Mullah Omar in Quetta, believing them safe, as a lure to keep US military aid flowing. UBL capture is a credit to Panetta who was not fooled&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matthewslyman -   You talk of floods and poverty in Pakistan and these regions are so corrupt in use of funds for public cause despite multiple billions that flow to the cause.

It&#039;s not lack of political imagination it&#039;s the experience hardened practical wisdom in some of these cases.  Peace building is the current phase in Afghanistan and you&#039;ve seen what these rogue elements have done to the peace maker.  The conditions are there yet to pass this unconditioned love that you refer to some of these places.  

The political imagination is much needed in receiving contries for self-reliance and saving for the rainy day rather expecting this imagination from outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matthewslyman &#8211;   You talk of floods and poverty in Pakistan and these regions are so corrupt in use of funds for public cause despite multiple billions that flow to the cause.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not lack of political imagination it&#8217;s the experience hardened practical wisdom in some of these cases.  Peace building is the current phase in Afghanistan and you&#8217;ve seen what these rogue elements have done to the peace maker.  The conditions are there yet to pass this unconditioned love that you refer to some of these places.  </p>
<p>The political imagination is much needed in receiving contries for self-reliance and saving for the rainy day rather expecting this imagination from outside.</p>
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		<title>By: skteze</title>
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		<dc:creator>skteze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthewslyman, your comments are exactly on point.  Thank you.
Of course, asking for political imagination is almost as futile as expecting bankers to actuate any sentient form of cognition--except how to get that last dime out of your pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthewslyman, your comments are exactly on point.  Thank you.<br />
Of course, asking for political imagination is almost as futile as expecting bankers to actuate any sentient form of cognition&#8211;except how to get that last dime out of your pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: PakNationalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>PakNationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article borders on dellusional. The Pakistan military and ISI are the only working institutions in Pakistan. If the writer and other Americans actually think that Pakistan is going to pressurize its military and intelligence for these nefarious westerners--they need to get their heads checked. The americans are crybabys in a few days they&#039;ll be back to begging the Pakistanis for help and intelligence after they are done lying to cover up their own failiures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article borders on dellusional. The Pakistan military and ISI are the only working institutions in Pakistan. If the writer and other Americans actually think that Pakistan is going to pressurize its military and intelligence for these nefarious westerners&#8211;they need to get their heads checked. The americans are crybabys in a few days they&#8217;ll be back to begging the Pakistanis for help and intelligence after they are done lying to cover up their own failiures.</p>
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		<title>By: Idle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where were the American military helicopters during last year’s floods, or during this year’s repeat of the same?&quot; 

There were helicopters as well as an assault ship that participated in the rescue efforts. On top of that the US provided the largest amount of aid, about a third of the total $1.8B raised directly from other governments around the world. Three American Christian relief workers were murdered in Swat. The Pakistanis still hate us and we will continue to offer support and aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where were the American military helicopters during last year’s floods, or during this year’s repeat of the same?&#8221; </p>
<p>There were helicopters as well as an assault ship that participated in the rescue efforts. On top of that the US provided the largest amount of aid, about a third of the total $1.8B raised directly from other governments around the world. Three American Christian relief workers were murdered in Swat. The Pakistanis still hate us and we will continue to offer support and aid.</p>
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