Comments on: Wal-Mart will see you now http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MilitaryMan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39654 Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:07:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39654 I don’t see going to Walmart for my primary care but I’m glad they are planning to do it. It should provide a jolt to get the broken healthcare system to fundamentally rethink what they are doing. What exactly was wrong with paying my family doctor directly without insurance middlemen mucking things up? When Walmart brings efficiencies, consumers usually win. If you don’t like them, shop elsewhere. Sounds simple to me.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39529 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:45:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39529 I can’t believe so many people would fall for this guys spin. This would be wrong on soooo many levels.

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By: Abetterplace http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39525 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:08:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39525 I would not give Walmart the “Time of Day”. By far, the greediest company in America. By putting thousands of businesses out and by being among the first to open the road to China, all the while advertising “Made In America”, they have emerged as the giant world retailer.

I for one believe that any doctors that would work for them would be on the bottom of the toteum pole as doctors and that is one thing I don’t want caring for my health.

Another thing is I will not support a company, other than an emergency health service, that makes their workers come in on Thanksgiving and New Years day.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39511 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:12:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39511 @zotdoc,

I call ahead, or have my doctor do so. Accordingly, any wait is just to pick up and NOT to “get prescriptions filled”.

On Friday evenings, Saturdays and end of month days, there is (surprise, surprise) usually a wait to pick up. Since complaining without suggestions for improvement is a waste of everyone’s time, I have suggested the pharmacy manager bring in more clerical check-out staff to improve the situation in these predictable periods; and also suggested they get those “take a ticket” machines for the pick-up line so people can shop and wait at the same time. That’s a “win-win” solution for all involved.

@DrJJJJ,

A separate entrance for health clinics? Good idea. I’d also like to see a separate waiting area in every doctor’s office for those without obviously contagious symptoms, and to see office personnel out there every half hour or so wiping down chairs with antiseptic wipes. Don;t expepct to see that in my lifetime.

“Young/healthy folks can pay a minimum catastrophic fee until they want better coverage. Everyone should pay…”.
I’m sure WANTS “better coverage” no matter what they have. I’m sure those people in the 19th and 20th centuries WANTED better coverage than they had.

One inconvenient truth. Those who are or would be financially responsible understand the difference between a “want” and a “need”. If an economy can’t AFFORD to cover every risk plus the kitchen sink then it has to reduce costs, not cover some things, adopt coverage limitations and/or separate wants from needs.

We are looking at huge numbers of Americans who will spend their final years living with diabetes and its considerable expenses. A huge majority of these are obese beforehand. It’s no mystery that as many as half could avoid the disease entirely or reverse it with reasonable
eating and exercise habits.

I see no reason there should not be a local, state and federal effort to establish community walking, Tai Chi, Yoga and jogging groups. These could be co-located with baseball and soccer fields so while junior is doing his or her thing, mom and dad can do theirs.

If people won’t get off their couch or out of their car and take reasonable care of their bodies, I see absolutely no reason taxpayers should get the bill for treating the conditions that predictably follow a life of physical sloth.

If I agree it is everyone’s right to vegetate and overeat
please agree it is taxpayer’s right to deny them coverage for predictable and avoidable chronic disease, even if these be “the least of us”.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39510 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:11:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39510 @zotdoc,

I call ahead, or have my doctor do so. Accordingly, any wait is just to pick up and NOT to “get prescriptions filled”.

On Friday evenings, Saturdays and end of month days, there is (surprise, surprise) usually a wait to pick up. Since complaining without suggestions for improvement is a waste of everyone’s time, I have suggested the pharmacy manager bring in more clerical check-out staff to improve the situation in these predictable periods; and also suggested they get those “take a ticket” machines for the pick-up line so people can shop and wait at the same time. That’s a “win-win” solution for all involved.

@DrJJJJ,

A separate entrance for health clinics? Good idea. I’d also like to see a separate waiting area in every doctor’s office for those without obviously contagious symptoms, and to see office personnel out there every half hour or so wiping down chairs with antiseptic wipes. Don;t expepct to see that in my lifetime.

“Young/healthy folks can pay a minimum catastrophic fee until they want better coverage. Everyone should pay…”.
I’m sure WANTS “better coverage” no matter what they have. I’m sure those people in the 19th and 20th centuries WANTED better coverage than they had.

One inconvenient truth. Those who are or would be financially responsible understand the difference between a “want” and a “need”. If an economy can’t AFFORD to cover every risk plus the kitchen sink then it has to reduce costs, not cover some things, adopt coverage limitations and/or separate wants from needs.

We are looking at huge numbers of Americans who will spend their final years living with diabetes and its considerable expenses. A huge majority of these are obese beforehand. It’s no mystery that as many as half could avoid the disease entirely or reverse it with reasonable
eating and exercise habits.

I see no reason there should not be a local, state and federal effort to establish community walking, Tai Chi, Yoga and jogging groups. These could be co-located with baseball and soccer fields so while junior is doing his or her thing, mom and dad can do theirs.

If people won’t get off their couch or out of their car and take reasonable care of their bodies, I see absolutely no reason taxpayers should get the bill for treating the conditions that predictably follow a life of physical sloth.

If I agree it is everyone’s right to vegetate and overeat
please agree it is taxpayer’s right to deny them coverage for predictable and avoidable chronic disease, even if these be “the least of us”.

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By: DrJJJJ http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39488 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:12:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39488 At least make it a seperate/outside entrance! Locating disease control next to fruit and veggys doesn’t make sense! Young/healthy folks can pay a minumum catastrophic fee until they want better coverage! Everyone should pay a min fee for catastrophic care (say anyone working period) We all pay into a pool to help the least of us!

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By: zotdoc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39486 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:01:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39486 our local wal mart seems to have very long wait times to get prescriptions filled, but I guess when they are doing the cheapest possible health care that they will somehow assure that wait times will be very short.

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39475 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:16:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39475 You are correct @OneOfTheSheep, I offered no facts, just a bit of wisdom drenched in sarcasm. It is an opinion column after all.
Of course the system is unsustainable. That’s been pretty obvious for quite a while now. Even the politicians don’t deny that. I also agree that the VA should be more efficient (I’m an old vet too). But I don’t think that going retail is the answer. In fact, I recommended re-inventing health care (not that I know how, I’m just one man) in the previous post, not just shifting the ball to a “better ” company with a price list as you seem to suggest.
But you miss the point of my posts anyway. Mr. Chase is the CEO of a company trying to sell software to Wal-Mart (or anyone else I would assume) . His “Opinion” is very highly biased. In fact, this should have been an Infomercial, not a opinion.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39470 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:48:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39470 @tmc,

I feel your pain (as does anyone closer than 20′ to their monitor), but you present few, if any, facts to back up your position.

Is it not clear that Medicare does NOT negotiate drug prices, but the VA does? I can tell you that the VA charges ME more as a co-pay than I can buy my statins, etc. for directly from Costco Mail Order in Everett, WA, with free, timely shipping to my door.

Is it not true that virtually NO hospital will give a consumer a written price for a procedure up front? That’s why I go to an independent mechanic for anything and everything not covered by warranty. The system is consumer-unfriendly and taxpayer unfriendly.

You seem to suggest we just keep doing what we’re doing. What part of unsustainable do you not understand?

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/11/11/wal-mart-will-see-you-now/#comment-39468 Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:54:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11022#comment-39468 Great idea. Lets offshore healthcare. Wal-Mart will ensure that those pharmaceutical companies move the last remnants of their north American operation to China. That will save bundles. Then all of those expensive medical supplies. You know, the $100 Band-Aids, those need to be moved to Vietnam or Malaysia. I mean, let’s face it, most of the doctors in my hospital are from India and China anyway right? With the internet and Technology [Avado advertisement here] those doctors can stay at their native home, be paid paltry amounts, and see you on a nice South Korean wide screen HD monitor. The Associate (still on food stamps even though employed by Wal-Mart) will be happy to help with your every need in case the robotic arm gets stuck.
Seriously though, healthcare cannot be “fixed”, as we’ve seen over the last two decades. It must be re-invented. Perhaps letting Wal-Mart destroy it may bring about a better system, but I would think there are more humanitarian ways.

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