Comments on: Santorum and the Tea Party crackup http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Qeds http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40935 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:06:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40935 “What’s left is weaker than the sum of its parts”

Yes, but less shaky ground and a healthier foundation to restart. Always a trade-off i’m afraid…

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By: BakoD http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40932 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:55:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40932 The fascist GOP will say anything to anybody to win control. Period. They have no morals and are the farthest thing from Christianity. Disgusting.

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By: borisjimbo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40927 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:40:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40927 I’d be more worried about the Tea Party if it weren’t really the rebranded hard right of the GOP thanks to Dick Armey and Karl Rove.

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By: NickinMO http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40917 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:26:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40917 “When the life of a human being is threatened, government needs to intervene…”

So you get to pick and choose the morals for everyone? Isn’t that a theocracy? What if a Muslim candidate wanted to choose the religious laws that our secular laws should adhere to? Think there would be much outcry? What if I think that the government should intervene and keep you from going to church since it is a cult with no basis in fact and is a ponzi con scheme? After all the government would just be saving you from your own weak willed existence.

Or how about we keep the government out of people’s private lives and decisions so long as those decisions don’t directly harm others?

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By: Narvid http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40912 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:52:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40912 “When the life of a human being is threatened, government needs to intervene, even if government should not be in the business of dictating to us what kinds of light bulbs we may be permitted to purchase.”

Seriously? I don’t see conservatives concerned about anybody’s life but their own. Complete hypocrisy when you can be against all forms of contraception and conveniently ignore the “person” after they are born and need family, food and shelter.

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By: Dafydd http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40907 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:15:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40907 You are basically right. These people are the old right wing.

There was a big change in the right when Reagan came in. They were no longer fiscal conservatives, they thought they could reduce taxes and balance the budget with the resulting boost to growth. This continues up to and including George W. It is demonstrably false, but Tea Partiers won’t accept it.

These guys only want to cut spending on other people. They think medicare is just fine, but are moresceptical about medicaid. They want tax breaks for married couples, but less for welfare.

They do not challenge the balooning pentagon budget.

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By: JBltn http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40901 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:45:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40901 It’s time and past time for rational voters to become political activists and speaking out their views, even demands, to our political processes. Supposedly we are the ‘tie breakers in presidential elections; why don’t act as tie breakers in the gridlocked legislative processes? It seems to me that ‘we’ are the only unorganized Interest group pressuring legislators and POTUS; talibangelicals want theocracy not democracy; Neocons want wars and corporate profits, AKA fascism, progressives want individual liberties for all at government expense, however I’m unsure what other ‘Independents’ want. I know what I want, a functional government delivering ‘good Public Policy, benefiting a majority of Americans, derived from actual rational debate and a compromise between opposing philosophical beliefs. I want honest legislators and that requires an independent body with investigative, subpoena and civil enforcement powers over sitting legislators. I want as much special interest group money as possible removed from our political processes and that requires actual oversight, actual interest group member transparency of donors and removing all tax breaks/loopholes or deductions by such groups used to influence elections; that includes any religious group currently classified as a 501-c (3 or 4). I want our Constitution, as amended, treated as a whole document, including a the Declaration of Independence considered as legal Intent and such Constitutionally guaranteed civil rights, now abrogated, be The Law of the Land and such state and federal laws currently restricting those ‘rights’ be nullified and state or federal bodies be dismantled or assigned another enforcement role benefiting a majority a majority of American citizens. I want term limits for SCOTUS judges and they are subject to the same ethical and financial oversight as legislators. I want the Electoral College dismantled and federal elections subject to the popular vote and any state law constraining the right of US citizens be nullified. I want all citizens treated as equally treated as any citizen and laws currently in force restricting such treatment be nullified. I want our progressive tax code be reformed, simplified, written in citizen speak, and tax loopholes subsidizing or giving preference to corporate entities be removed and tax enforcement activities be prioritized using the 90-10 rule, i.e., that 90% of tax evasion is done by 10% of individuals and corporations with the most to gain by tax avoidance or cheating. I want our legal system reformed and simplified with a mandate to treat all citizens equal under ‘The Rule of Law’ benefiting the majority of American citizens and with Corporate CEOs and governing board members be treated as co-defendants in any illegal acts committed or caused by such corporate entities and subject to the same penalties as any citizen convicted under the same law. That what I want however I don’t pretend to know what other cognitive, rational independent voters want; probably many of mine.
IMHO, independents need an active voice and presence in our national political processes otherwise ‘we’ risk more of the same, more corporate ownership, more legislator venality , more individual ‘civil rights’ taken away, more ideological Special Interest groups pouring millions of secretive dollar$ into elections for increasing their power and profits.

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By: pHenry http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40890 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 06:27:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40890 We’ve always had and will probably always have culture wars but rarely, if ever, small government. Reading tea party leaves? “Don’t shoot the messenger” is what I hear when the non-party party is attacked as if it was a “movement”. Try being a straight white settled conservative ex-Republican-democrat. I’m not too impressed with any party even using the word “party”. The fn party should be over and work begun. Go Paul! Maybe not the messenger but at least the damn message…E NUFF war, EEE NUF laws, sure plenty of Uncle Sugar to go around IF we tried to just stop what leaks out from un/under-reported taxes. “They” say in ’06 (if collected)it would have been sufficient to balance the year’s budget. But since the word “budget” is also on the list of worthless conjoined letters of the current language, forget that as a fix-all now or ever, but never go back to spending without raising revenue like a dog to it’s vomit. you pukes make me sick and come re-election time you better build more credit or cash out like Santorum and try to catch the tail of the health care beast cirlcling our pile of $.
Abortion should be legal and unknown.
Guns kill people. Just like they’re supposed to when you step across the line and I hear my granddaughter cry.
Taxes pay for things I can’t, won’t, maybe don’t even “believe” in. But I have one vote Mr. Pledge of conservatism. Just like you. And when “you” decide to tip government towards minority rule through antiquated procedures…I boo. Whether you are an ass like me or big-eared like the rest of my Lincoln loving family.

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By: borisjimbo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40885 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 03:36:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40885 The US right wants both, the Culture Wars and a small government. Why is this so difficult to understand?

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By: donincardona http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/01/06/santorum-and-the-tea-party-crackup/#comment-40869 Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:02:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=11482#comment-40869 the truth is not only santorum is for big government but so is the GOP. they just want their big government . the tea party is nothing more than a movement that started because we had elected a democratic president. and he was black. now the movement is fading and will be irrelevent soon as paole are mad about the way they caused all the distress all year long and created all those crises. rick santorum will never be anything again. he lost his election in pennsylvania by 18 points. right now he’s the flavor of the month. when vetted he will sink.

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