Comments on: Overthrowing the overthrowers of the Republican establishment http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: jimthorpe http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-45668 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 02:26:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-45668 I find it amusing that every establishment type who believes in the virtues of large centralized control thinks a small decentralized government is quaint, moronic or simply irrational. In the history of the world governments controlled by a few like minded individuals for their own benefit has been the norm.
To think perhaps, as Jefferson, Washington or Madison thought, that perhaps there is a better way may indeed be idiotic, given the powers arrayed against them. And perhaps there is something in human genetics, like sheep, that we crave a shepherd. But that neither makes it good or just or inevitable.

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By: usagadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44632 Wed, 23 May 2012 14:14:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44632 Anyone who dreams a dream of there not being a Republican Establishment cannot read, or does not want to.

A simple biographical fact check can confirm the social class origins of prominent Republicans from the past. The Bush family all come from old money and power. So does Romney. Reagan was, in many, many ways, a Republican oddity. Compare the social origins of Obama and Clinton and Carter. The contrast is informative.

The rich take care of the rich and no one else. People who believe otherwise are just willfully blind, as peasants and serfs have been for millenia. The system depends on it.

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By: YoungTurkArmy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44585 Tue, 22 May 2012 15:32:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44585 Your Con commentators have been beating on our health and social programs and regulatory obsessions for years. It now feels like we have our own W in office, eroding all of the benefits we have amassed over the years, for the benefit of the oil rich. Don’t start “liking us on Facebook” just yet.

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By: PCScipio http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44581 Tue, 22 May 2012 13:58:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44581 Parker1227, it appears you put no blame for bubbles on the folks who actually profited from them. Oh, and Canada did better because it actually had effective government regulation of the market. Smart government can be good for people.

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By: Parker1227 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44579 Tue, 22 May 2012 12:53:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44579 Every single socialist country in the world has been backing away from this foul religion, bit by bit, because it does not work.

Even Canada was smart enough to require home owners to have significant investment (about 20%), in order to avoid bubbles and crashes.

But we had a congress and a fed and presidents on both sides who thought we could never build too many homes, give to many bad loans, or have too much global speculation in the housing market.

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By: breezinthru http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44576 Tue, 22 May 2012 10:26:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44576 Membership in the party of white, heterosexual conservative, Christian gun owners, the military, and white collar America has fewer and fewer members each passing year is in demographic decline.

The color of America is changing; the military is smaller; corporate America is finding that when they get bailed out and bonused beyond reason, and when they start making their products overseas to boost profits, many of their customers are cast into financial ruin; many Americans are disgusted by TV evangelism, and there are fewer hunters/fishermen to buy fewer licenses.

More importantly, conservative once meant, at least partly, fiscally conservative; now those alleged fiscal conservatives spend public money like drunken sailors on shore leave and claim they are still conservatives because their God still hates the GLBT community.

Whether or not the GOP establishment is a moot point; they have strayed from who they were and are not trying to become an entity that can still be a political force. They are no longer an ideology that draws membership; are a membership in search of an ideology.

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By: edgyinchina http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/05/21/overthrowing-the-overthrowers-of-the-republican-establishment/#comment-44564 Tue, 22 May 2012 02:13:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=12853#comment-44564 Anyone who doesn’t believe that the GOP establishment exists, is either naive, or has been locked in a closet for 50 years…..
Good op-ed piece… It’s too bad that this GOP establishment is leading us down the path of oppression and tyranny… Heil GOP…

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