Comments on: Protecting Americans from tobacco’s damage http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: smokefree http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-58467 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:39:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-58467 This is a reply to Slammy: Unfortunately, I did know a friend who was a very heavy smoker and developed lung cancer due to his smoking several packs per day. He was in his mid to late 20’s when he was diagnosed with the dreadful disease. I remember visiting him in the hospital and him telling me that the doctors said the cancer had gone to far and that there was not much hope of saving his life. His attitude was since there was nothing he could do at that point he was going to continue smoking his cigarettes (this was before hospitals became smokefree) which he did and passed away a very short time after. My friend was a rebel rouser type of guy who drank heavy, liked fast cars and smoked cigarettes. To this day, I still can’t get over him and his attitude.

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By: JayR1945 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-57136 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:42:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-57136 The recently released “Monitoring the Future” report indicates that:
The decrease in tobacco use in young adults use has been minimal.
The rate has leveled off just like the >18 adult rate.
Tobacco use is being used to self-medicate stress related disorders.
And these divisive, failing programs just add more stress to a population that has had more than their share.

But the esier to obtain (but still illegal) Marijuana rate has just taken over as the drug of choice for high schoolers. After all extensive use in high school didn’t hurt your boss. Should we expect to find a health educational component extolling the virtues of “roof hits”?

The Tobacco Control effort needs a cessation program. I hear cold turkey is best.

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-57048 Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:28:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-57048 The government could subsidize testing kits for radon in homes, but it won’t even bother with that simple measure. Shows that they don’t really care about the public health, but they’re obssessed with showing the world how much better they are than the lowly cigarette smoker.

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-57047 Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:24:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-57047 Correction: Hamburg, not Frankel.

Why are the crusaders so worried about smoking but don’t care at all about radon? Answer: doing something about radon doesn’t show you’re superior to anyone, it just helps people be healthier.

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-57046 Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:16:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-57046 We all know that smoking is bad for you, but there is something insidious about using regulations and laws to prevent the use of this legal product. Frankel talks about how they are trying to force companies to put large, disgusting messages on cigarette packs the way they do in Canada. That does injury to freedom of speech, but Frankel doesn’t care. If smoking is that bad, why not make them illegal? What they ought to do is try and develop tobacco that isn’t going to kill you.

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By: dantoledo1 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-56652 Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:32:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-56652 OK. Second hand smoke is NOT good for you. That is just the truth. But that includes all second hand smoke. Yes all smoke, not just cigarettes. Campfires and woodburning fireplaces included. Now it is currently fashionable to hate cigarette smoke. But when that threat has been eliminated where will the hate turn?

Cigarette smoke produces much more second hand smoke than the other sources, make no mistake. Most of us do not go camping and most do not use wood burning fireplaces anymore. We stay indoors and have gas or electric furnaces.

Once the people angry about second hand smoke have nothing to complain about you will see the anger shift. It may very well find it’s place at Scout Camp or the fire you light at home to keep warm on a cold winter night. Both produce carcinogens that are released into the atmosphere. And there will be people that continue to die as a result.

Not as many people will die from these as die from second hand cigarette smoke. But isn’t one preventable death one too many?

Keep up the good work towards a world where no one dies from preventable causes. I imagine that world will not have much left in it since just aboput everything we do has danger inherent in it.

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By: StevenG726 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-56196 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:17:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-56196 WHAT YOU WON’T HEAR THEM SAY

They say their product is legal – but you’ll never hear them say it’s safe.

They say they have a right to smoke – you’ll never hear them say that we have a right to breathe.

They say we’re taking away their freedom – you’ll never hear them say we’re limiting their addiction.

They say there is no proof of harm – you’ll never hear them say they know people who died from use.

They point their finger to the obese who harm themselves, but no one ever died from secondhand food.

This issue is always about them as individuals – you’ll never hear them speak out for anyone else.

They say “make a section to smoke” in places people gather to eat and drink – you’ll never hear them say they’ll wait or leave to limit everyone else’s exposure to the poisons in their secondhand smoke.

They say they pay taxes on every $5 pack of cigarettes they buy – you’ll never hear them apologize for the $7 we will be taxed to pay for their future healthcare costs, on every pack they buy.

They say smoking bans lose customers and profits for restaurants and bars – you’ll never hear them say cities adopting smokefree policies have never rescinded them because studies have shown that businesses gain more customers and have seen increases in their profits.

They say they won’t go to bars and restaurants that ban smoking inside and/or on outdoor patios – you’ll never hear them say that the federal tax increase of $1 per pack; a 90* cents per pack price hike by cigarette manufacturers; and a looming state tax, is making their addiction too expensive for them to go out – to eat or drink anyway.

They say they are responsible smokers – you’ll never hear them say lit cigarettes and irresponsible smoking is the number one cause of apartment and house fires; and known to be a major cause of hillside and forest fires in dry and windy conditions.

They say smoking gives them a sense of freedom and independence – it is anything but – smokers should not feel free to light-up around those who don’t smoke and their independence is more like dependence and slavery to nicotine, the drug of their addiction and irritability.

Some say they feel more comfortable smoking in social situations – fact is, nobody wants to get secondhand smoke on their clothes, in their hair, or on their skin, so they stay away from the smoker.

They reason that smoking has never hurt them – that’s because decreased oxygen levels to their brains are due to the increased carbon monoxide levels in their lungs.

And lastly, Smoking is just bad – for ALL of us – because it leads to numerous health problems for the smoker like heart attack & stroke, cancer, lung disease and death; but that’s not all, they also take a few of us with them, as well. For every 20 people that die from smoking – 3 non-smokers also die because they were forced to breathe in secondhand smoke.

All of this can change and we have the power to do that – with our voice, with our conscience, and with our vote.

After all is said and done, the fact is, we were all born non-smokers and that is our natural state of being.

Written and presented by Steven Gallegos, March 7, 2009

*Cigarette manufacturers announced a 9 cent rise per pack in February 2009 and another 81 cent increase after SCHIP was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama.

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By: Slammy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-56183 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:16:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-56183 I quit, or started to quit, smoking when I saw my teenage years girlfriend’s father die from lung cancer. She was 14 at the time and he spent the last two years of life having his lungs cut out and slowly suffocating to death. His brain died the last two months of his life from lack of oxygen and she watched her father become insane and then a vegetable. It was an awful experience that I doubt many smokers think about when they justify it by saying, everyone has got to die some day. Dying is one thing but the misery is another.
Question, does anyone know a smoker who got sick and said, well, I am sick from tobacco now and its my own fault. I am not going to worry about treatment and will just go die now since I am going to die anyway and I don’t want to bother my family with this. I have seen a couple of dozen smokers now get one illness or another and everyone fought/fights like hell to stay alive. It is funny how someones attitude changes once they are told they will die within a few months unless get treatment. So, how many people know smokers who got sick and refused treatment out of the principal that they did it to themselves and they are going to die anyway? Anyone know someone like that?

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By: dwilliams3 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-56181 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:01:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-56181 How I wish the smoking “do-gooders” would let up and/or confine themselves to prevention in young people and other areas that do not infringe on smokers’ rights. It’s getting to the point where, if you have a hang-nail, somebody is going to blame it on smoking. Enough already! We’ve got the message.

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By: Sarasota http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/07/11/protecting-americans-from-tobaccos-damage/#comment-56179 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:38:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=13532#comment-56179 Infringement? Breathing air not mixed with the stench of tobacco smoke is a right. And the best way to ensure that tobacco users pay for their own sickness, rather than impose it on society, is to raise taxes on tobacco, and keep raising them until the stench is completely eliminated.

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