Comments on: The radical right-wing roots of Occupy Wall Street http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/ Thu, 23 May 2013 19:39:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: bhessel http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-71859 bhessel Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:12:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-71859 From my perspective, it appears that the Tea Party and OWS pretty much agree on the diagnosis of the problem (too much centralized control) but not on the prescription for addressing it (the Tea Party want to dismantle central control while OWS believe it can be perfected, if only the rules are properly/fairly rewritten). Both groups are ahead of the vast majority of citizens who either do not perceive or choose to ignore the problem. http://intelledgement.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/i-say-tea-party-you-say-z-party/ From my perspective, it appears that the Tea Party and OWS pretty much agree on the diagnosis of the problem (too much centralized control) but not on the prescription for addressing it (the Tea Party want to dismantle central control while OWS believe it can be perfected, if only the rules are properly/fairly rewritten). Both groups are ahead of the vast majority of citizens who either do not perceive or choose to ignore the problem.

http://intelledgement.wordpress.com/2011  /11/21/i-say-tea-party-you-say-z-party/

]]> By: matonis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61895 matonis Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:18:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61895 In 2009, a cryptographer named Satoshi Nakamoto unleashed a decentralised cryptocurrency on the world. Trading independently for over 3 years now, it still remains as the leading weapon in preventing monetary tyranny. http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.de/2011/06/why-are-libertarians-against-bitcoin.html In 2009, a cryptographer named Satoshi Nakamoto unleashed a decentralised cryptocurrency on the world. Trading independently for over 3 years now, it still remains as the leading weapon in preventing monetary tyranny.

http://themonetaryfuture.blogspot.de/201 1/06/why-are-libertarians-against-bitcoi n.html

]]> By: G_to_the_G http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61158 G_to_the_G Wed, 26 Sep 2012 23:58:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61158 Interesting article about the guy himself, but the title is misleading as it has nothing to do with Occupy. To the degree that there are any intellectual or organizational 'parents' of occupy wall street, this guy isnt one of them, or even known. Interesting article about the guy himself, but the title is misleading as it has nothing to do with Occupy. To the degree that there are any intellectual or organizational ‘parents’ of occupy wall street, this guy isnt one of them, or even known.

]]> By: MrRFox http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61098 MrRFox Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:25:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61098 Thank you for this very informative (if almost tl;dr) piece. Good to know that, whatever their substantive policy differences, OWS and TEA have some common genetic material. Combined, they could muster like 75% public approval - a force that cannot be denied its will. Unfortunately, they only agree on one issue - but that one is enough: The forces of the status quo must be overthrown. If they could manage to unite on a package of electoral reform, and just a few other related things, there might be hope. Everything else can, and must, wait for that. Thank you for this very informative (if almost tl;dr) piece.

Good to know that, whatever their substantive policy differences, OWS and TEA have some common genetic material. Combined, they could muster like 75% public approval – a force that cannot be denied its will. Unfortunately, they only agree on one issue – but that one is enough:

The forces of the status quo must be overthrown. If they could manage to unite on a package of electoral reform, and just a few other related things, there might be hope. Everything else can, and must, wait for that.

]]> By: JohnDrinkwater http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61084 JohnDrinkwater Tue, 25 Sep 2012 03:28:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61084 The headline of this article is extremely misleading. Hess renounced his right-wing views and became an anarchist. He embraced Emma Goldman and distanced himself from Rand Therefore, if he has any connection at all with the Occupy Movement (of course, he had no direct connection), it is as a leftist, not a right-winger. There are no right-wing roots OWS. Silly. The headline of this article is extremely misleading. Hess renounced his right-wing views and became an anarchist. He embraced Emma Goldman and distanced himself from Rand Therefore, if he has any connection at all with the Occupy Movement (of course, he had no direct connection), it is as a leftist, not a right-winger. There are no right-wing roots OWS. Silly.

]]> By: Clore http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61075 Clore Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:34:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61075 This article has a great deal of fascinating historical material However, I'm an old friend of David Graeber, the anarchist anthropologist who apparently introduced the 1% vs 99% trope to Occupy Wall Street, and I do not think it at all likely that this was his source. This article has a great deal of fascinating historical material

However, I’m an old friend of David Graeber, the anarchist anthropologist who apparently introduced the 1% vs 99% trope to Occupy Wall Street, and I do not think it at all likely that this was his source.

]]> By: ProfMagyar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61051 ProfMagyar Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:15:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61051 People seem to never look deep enough to see who is actually the driving force within an organization. Just as an example, and I'll leave out the org's name, there's a church you oriented group who spreads evangelical Christianity. I don't really have a problem with the group and some of the front line workers do really good things. The problem is that after some digging I discovered that the couple of individuals that founded the organization are against food stamps, welfare, help for the homeless. They want to cut spending on education and remove environmental regulations. They want lower taxes for the wealthy and higher taxes for "the free loaders." So before blindly joining a group or cause - at least do some research to find out who founded the group and why...... People seem to never look deep enough to see who is actually the driving force within an organization. Just as an example, and I’ll leave out the org’s name, there’s a church you oriented group who spreads evangelical Christianity. I don’t really have a problem with the group and some of the front line workers do really good things. The problem is that after some digging I discovered that the couple of individuals that founded the organization are against food stamps, welfare, help for the homeless. They want to cut spending on education and remove environmental regulations. They want lower taxes for the wealthy and higher taxes for “the free loaders.” So before blindly joining a group or cause – at least do some research to find out who founded the group and why……

]]> By: NateWhilk http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61043 NateWhilk Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:18:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61043 jp007 wrote, "The Tea Party and Occupy are thus natural allies but separated by the divide and conquer politicos of big government." Only in your tortured, hallucinatory logic. Occupy wants more from the government, Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes taken by that government. jp007 wrote, “The Tea Party and Occupy are thus natural allies but separated by the divide and conquer politicos of big government.”

Only in your tortured, hallucinatory logic. Occupy wants more from the government, Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes taken by that government.

]]> By: gooms http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61042 gooms Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:59:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61042 HA! Occupy falls apart, fizzles out and is remembered as a dismal, disorganized movement stained with violence, rapes and anarchy so this HACK does what every liberal lefty does: BLAME someone else. See? The Occupy movement is really a RIGHT WING movement! Got it! HA!

Occupy falls apart, fizzles out and is remembered as a dismal, disorganized movement stained with violence, rapes and anarchy so this HACK does what every liberal lefty does: BLAME someone else.

See? The Occupy movement is really a RIGHT WING movement!

Got it!

]]> By: Andvari http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/09/20/the-radical-right-wing-roots-of-occupy-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-61040 Andvari Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:28:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=14064#comment-61040 I still have my hardback copy of Dear America, bought the year it was published. I still have my hardback copy of Dear America, bought the year it was published.

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