Comments on: Why Zero Dark Thirty divides the media in half http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: NPThompson http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-71000 Tue, 26 Feb 2013 06:20:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-71000 Snip: The New York Times‘ Manohla Dargis…came to the conclusion that the film’s scenes of torture were justified. “However unprovable the effectiveness of these interrogations, they did take place,” she wrote. “To omit them from ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ would have been a reprehensible act of moral cowardice.”

This quote from Dargis exemplifies everything that’s wrong with her rather useless criticism: like most mainstream reviewers, she fails to grasp that filmmakers who depict barbaric acts need to have a point of view that differentiates between what is being shown to us versus what the filmmakers actually think about the act (in this case, torture) being recreated on-screen. This principle applies to filming any kind of bad behavior. Are the moviemakers getting their kicks from the horror or are they condemning or questioning it in some way? Bigelow and Boal depicted acts of torture and apparently did so in a manner to indicate their endorsement of these techniques — a fine point lost on Dargis and the herd.

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By: AlDorman http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-70985 Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:51:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-70985 So happy that this trash pro-torture CIA-funded propaganda film was humiliated at the Oscars.
Thanks for this article.

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By: QuietThinker http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-69526 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:19:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-69526 I haven’t seen the film. It is clear enough from the trailers that it completely abandons any notion of truth.
Apparently knowledgeable Senators from both ends of the political spectrum agree.

“…Senators Dianne Feinstein, John McCain and Carl Levin wrote a letter of complaint to the film’s distributor, Sony Pictures, calling the movie “grossly inaccurate and misleading in its suggestion that torture resulted in information” that led to the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.”

Unfortunately too many voters cannot distinguish truth from fiction and often prefer the fiction. This contributes significantly to our extreme partisanship.

I recommend that you spend your movie dollars on “Lincoln” instead.

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By: ConstFundie http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-69498 Mon, 31 Dec 2012 04:06:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-69498 Horrible and imaginary justification for abominable violence. To dream up and portray to life the fallacy that
torture was proven effective in a historical context shows a complete lack ethics, morality, and humanity. Shock violence and controversy for viewership and $ are more and more the go-to Hollywood MO.

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By: agsocrates http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-69483 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:31:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-69483 I think the problem here is lack of nuance. These days everything seems to be black and white. Why can’t we acknowledge a well thought out work of art, while critiquing its political aspects. Culture and morality are intrinsically linked and not in a linear fashion. One can be excellent in one and deficient in the other. Maybe if mainstream media wasn’t obsessed with boiling movies down into a simple thumbs up or thumbs down, but rather using them as launching boards for more nuanced discussion we would have less controversy and more learning.

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By: Samrch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-69474 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:40:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-69474 This shows part of the big problem of the flood of frictional violence. It makes weak minds think of it as a solution to something or the capacity and willingness to do it as positive. Al of wich cause real violence to happen.

The second part is misinformation about what happens becomes the common viewpoint of all those who do not take the time to check. But dealing with war and other violence and violent people is an election issue and a political issue.

Fictional presentation of violence should be banned. The non-fiction of it must be know as all parts of the real world we have to deal with.

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By: Jayhawker98 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2012/12/28/why-zero-dark-thirty-divides-the-media-in-half/#comment-69471 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:24:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=16576#comment-69471 There is a lot wrong with this movie. It is such an important event it is probably hard to cover it all accurately. In my opinion, they elevated the contributions of the Maya character because they wanted a woman in the roll and nothing more. It was for politically correct Hollywood nonsense. This acting director of the CIA was so bothered by the way the investigation was portrayed, that he had to write a response.
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In the film, Jessica Chastain plays a CIA operative, Maya, who is integral in locating the terror mastermind in Pakistan.“The filmmakers attributed the actions of our entire Agency — and the broader Intelligence Community — to just a few individuals,” Morell said. ”This may make for more compelling entertainment, but it does not reflect the facts. The success of the May 1st 2011 operation was a team effort — and a very large team at that.

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