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		<title>By: jtsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying that Zionism will dissapear eventually is not the same as threatening to &quot;wipe Israel from the face of the earth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying that Zionism will dissapear eventually is not the same as threatening to &#8220;wipe Israel from the face of the earth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: melk</title>
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		<dc:creator>melk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Obama – like his predecessor – refuses to acknowledge Iran’s right to enrich. For this would require acknowledging the Islamic Republic as a legitimate political order representing legitimate national interests&quot;

But what if the actions of a &quot;legitimate political order&quot;
extend to threats of the nuclear destruction of another country. And that these threats may become much more attainable if nuclear enrichment is achieved? Surely this issue is the primary one involved here? Stop threatening the destruction of Israel and the world will indeed treat Iran like a legitimate political order. How hard is that? The Leveretts don&#039;t even discuss this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But Obama – like his predecessor – refuses to acknowledge Iran’s right to enrich. For this would require acknowledging the Islamic Republic as a legitimate political order representing legitimate national interests&#8221;</p>
<p>But what if the actions of a &#8220;legitimate political order&#8221;<br />
extend to threats of the nuclear destruction of another country. And that these threats may become much more attainable if nuclear enrichment is achieved? Surely this issue is the primary one involved here? Stop threatening the destruction of Israel and the world will indeed treat Iran like a legitimate political order. How hard is that? The Leveretts don&#8217;t even discuss this.</p>
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		<title>By: melk</title>
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		<dc:creator>melk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Leveretts manage a long column about Iran and its uranium enrichment issues without a single mention of repeated Iranian threats to destroy Israel. So what should we think of these threats?

(a) Iran is a superior country like Germany.If Germany issued these threats we would take them seriously, or

(b) Iran is a lunatic, repressive state run by stone-age morons. There are no gay Iranians. Let&#039;s not take anything they say seriously. But let them go ahead with that nuclear enrichment thingie. Or,

(c) This is all Israel&#039;s fault. Refer to lunatic first comment for further clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Leveretts manage a long column about Iran and its uranium enrichment issues without a single mention of repeated Iranian threats to destroy Israel. So what should we think of these threats?</p>
<p>(a) Iran is a superior country like Germany.If Germany issued these threats we would take them seriously, or</p>
<p>(b) Iran is a lunatic, repressive state run by stone-age morons. There are no gay Iranians. Let&#8217;s not take anything they say seriously. But let them go ahead with that nuclear enrichment thingie. Or,</p>
<p>(c) This is all Israel&#8217;s fault. Refer to lunatic first comment for further clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranberries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cranberries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is nothing but fantasy.  You are comparing two totally different regimes in different times, locations and places.  Its called cultural relativism.  You can&#039;t say they are same and will have the same outcome.  More so, you seem to suggest that more nuclear weapons in the Middle East would be a good thing.  This is not so.  You honestly expect a nation that oppresses people, treats women like 2nd class citizens, hangs others for apostasy to be treated on equal footing as the rest of world?  What hogwash.  If that is the case, then we should not care if Germany starts killing Jews again, or if another Melosavik came to light.  Let them be right?  You are perpetuating nuclear war by pandering to a peaceful ideology and it will bite you if you don&#039;t watch it.  Iran is not Russia, China or another other nation.  Iran is Iran.  It needs to be qualmed before they have the power to do any real damage.  Any person with a brain realizes you can&#039;t trust religious fanatics running a country.  You think you can sway them to peace when they murder their own citizens?  This is madness.  You don&#039;t know the ways of the wolf, for you are not one, sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is nothing but fantasy.  You are comparing two totally different regimes in different times, locations and places.  Its called cultural relativism.  You can&#8217;t say they are same and will have the same outcome.  More so, you seem to suggest that more nuclear weapons in the Middle East would be a good thing.  This is not so.  You honestly expect a nation that oppresses people, treats women like 2nd class citizens, hangs others for apostasy to be treated on equal footing as the rest of world?  What hogwash.  If that is the case, then we should not care if Germany starts killing Jews again, or if another Melosavik came to light.  Let them be right?  You are perpetuating nuclear war by pandering to a peaceful ideology and it will bite you if you don&#8217;t watch it.  Iran is not Russia, China or another other nation.  Iran is Iran.  It needs to be qualmed before they have the power to do any real damage.  Any person with a brain realizes you can&#8217;t trust religious fanatics running a country.  You think you can sway them to peace when they murder their own citizens?  This is madness.  You don&#8217;t know the ways of the wolf, for you are not one, sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: waggg</title>
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		<dc:creator>waggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US needs a completely different approach to everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US needs a completely different approach to everything.</p>
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		<title>By: georgejojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgejojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments here,if stated towards Israel or USA--reuters, no doubt would ban the posters.one sick moron said:
 &quot;Jan 31, 2013 1:26 am UTCUtter and total dreck. What the US needs to do is stop paying lip service to these stoneage morons and wipe them from the earth.
Posted by AnselHazen&quot;real sad part--the author uses a arab name :^(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments here,if stated towards Israel or USA&#8211;reuters, no doubt would ban the posters.one sick moron said:<br />
 &#8220;Jan 31, 2013 1:26 am UTCUtter and total dreck. What the US needs to do is stop paying lip service to these stoneage morons and wipe them from the earth.<br />
Posted by AnselHazen&#8221;real sad part&#8211;the author uses a arab name :^(</p>
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		<title>By: seeker656</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker656</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ring our hands about the growing power of Iran after conducting and ill advised war in Iraq that facilitated the rise in power that we now find so threatening. If we go to war with Iran, we only have ourselves to blame for creating the environment that was used to justify the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ring our hands about the growing power of Iran after conducting and ill advised war in Iraq that facilitated the rise in power that we now find so threatening. If we go to war with Iran, we only have ourselves to blame for creating the environment that was used to justify the war.</p>
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		<title>By: ChasMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChasMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran has a young, highly educated population in a land rich in needed natural resources and eager to create households, explore the world, and share their 3000 years of innovative governance and trade.
  
A savvy economist would look at such a demographic and see markets! pent up demand! mutual benefit!  a desperately needed path out of US crippling debt!

US Congresscritters, drunk on zioncaine, look at Iran and see the Other -- a nation full of children they would like to starve, bomb, assassinate, punish, and incite to riot.

Do dead people buy imported goods?

Who is the irrational party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran has a young, highly educated population in a land rich in needed natural resources and eager to create households, explore the world, and share their 3000 years of innovative governance and trade.</p>
<p>A savvy economist would look at such a demographic and see markets! pent up demand! mutual benefit!  a desperately needed path out of US crippling debt!</p>
<p>US Congresscritters, drunk on zioncaine, look at Iran and see the Other &#8212; a nation full of children they would like to starve, bomb, assassinate, punish, and incite to riot.</p>
<p>Do dead people buy imported goods?</p>
<p>Who is the irrational party?</p>
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		<title>By: RichardHack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichardHack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality of the Iran crisis is that it is a made up red herring for regime change, just like &quot;WMDs&quot; in Iraq was a made up red herring.

The facts are:

1) There is ZERO evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. This is the conclusion of all 16 US intelligence agencies AND Israeli intelligence.

2) There is ALMOST ZERO evidence that Iran has ever had a nuclear weapons program with the possible exception that Iran had a nuclear weapons FEASIBILITY STUDY ongoing during the time when Iran was afraid that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had one. Once the US overthrew Saddam and placed Shia political parties in control of Iraq in 2003, Iran promptly stopped that alleged feasibility program. At not time is there any evidence that Iran ever had an actual nuclear weapons development and deployment program.

3) Iran has no strategic or tactical use cases for nuclear weapons. It cannot compete with Israel, let alone the US, for nuclear parity, or even a credible threat absent at least some dozens of nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are only useful in the context of a deterrent and they can only deter when there are either approximately the same number of weapons on each side or a sufficient number of weapons as to provide a credible threat of major infrastructure destruction of the opponent.

4) Iran cannot construct nuclear weapons without being detected doing so and attacked by at least Israel and the US (once Iran retaliates against Israel for any such attack.) Nor can Iran construct nuclear weapons while being attacked by the US.

5) The Iranian leadership is well aware of these facts (points 3 and 4 above) and has repeatedly confirmed that because of them they have no interest in acquiring nuclear weapons.

6) The Iranian leadership has explicitly issued a religious edict against the possession of nuclear weapons which has the force of law in Iran. They have also offered to make this religious edict into a binding legal treaty under international law.

7) Any issues brought up by the IAEA concerning Iran&#039;s nuclear weapons program have either been debunked as forgeries by independent researchers or apply solely to Iran&#039;s behavior prior to 2003, when it gave up its alleged feasibility program. And most of the pre-2003 allegations in turn are based on document retrieved from a laptop which has been debunked by independent investigators as a likely forgery.

8) Iran has had more intrusive inspections of its nuclear program by the IAEA than any other country in history. The IAEA continues to certify that there has been NO diversion of nuclear materials to military purposes.

9) Other countries - notably South Korea and Brazil - have had similar or even more serious alleged &quot;violations&quot; of their Safeguards Agreement as Iran and not had anywhere near the attention paid to them over it. 

Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program and will never have a nuclear weapons program. And the US knows it. Obama is lying to the US public about his motivations for sanctioning and threatening war on Iran just as George W. Bush did with regard to Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality of the Iran crisis is that it is a made up red herring for regime change, just like &#8220;WMDs&#8221; in Iraq was a made up red herring.</p>
<p>The facts are:</p>
<p>1) There is ZERO evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. This is the conclusion of all 16 US intelligence agencies AND Israeli intelligence.</p>
<p>2) There is ALMOST ZERO evidence that Iran has ever had a nuclear weapons program with the possible exception that Iran had a nuclear weapons FEASIBILITY STUDY ongoing during the time when Iran was afraid that Saddam Hussein in Iraq had one. Once the US overthrew Saddam and placed Shia political parties in control of Iraq in 2003, Iran promptly stopped that alleged feasibility program. At not time is there any evidence that Iran ever had an actual nuclear weapons development and deployment program.</p>
<p>3) Iran has no strategic or tactical use cases for nuclear weapons. It cannot compete with Israel, let alone the US, for nuclear parity, or even a credible threat absent at least some dozens of nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are only useful in the context of a deterrent and they can only deter when there are either approximately the same number of weapons on each side or a sufficient number of weapons as to provide a credible threat of major infrastructure destruction of the opponent.</p>
<p>4) Iran cannot construct nuclear weapons without being detected doing so and attacked by at least Israel and the US (once Iran retaliates against Israel for any such attack.) Nor can Iran construct nuclear weapons while being attacked by the US.</p>
<p>5) The Iranian leadership is well aware of these facts (points 3 and 4 above) and has repeatedly confirmed that because of them they have no interest in acquiring nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>6) The Iranian leadership has explicitly issued a religious edict against the possession of nuclear weapons which has the force of law in Iran. They have also offered to make this religious edict into a binding legal treaty under international law.</p>
<p>7) Any issues brought up by the IAEA concerning Iran&#8217;s nuclear weapons program have either been debunked as forgeries by independent researchers or apply solely to Iran&#8217;s behavior prior to 2003, when it gave up its alleged feasibility program. And most of the pre-2003 allegations in turn are based on document retrieved from a laptop which has been debunked by independent investigators as a likely forgery.</p>
<p>8) Iran has had more intrusive inspections of its nuclear program by the IAEA than any other country in history. The IAEA continues to certify that there has been NO diversion of nuclear materials to military purposes.</p>
<p>9) Other countries &#8211; notably South Korea and Brazil &#8211; have had similar or even more serious alleged &#8220;violations&#8221; of their Safeguards Agreement as Iran and not had anywhere near the attention paid to them over it. </p>
<p>Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program and will never have a nuclear weapons program. And the US knows it. Obama is lying to the US public about his motivations for sanctioning and threatening war on Iran just as George W. Bush did with regard to Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottLucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottLucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Standard polemic from the Leveretts.

A negotiation to avoid military conflict, ease sanctions that are hurting Iranians, and resolve the nuclear issue? Absolutely.

But that&#039;s not what the priority of this article --- or indeed the book the Leveretts are pushing.

Their narrative of world affairs, based on assertion rather than analysis, is the simplistic &quot;US is losing, Iran is winning&quot;.

Perhaps more importantly, their eulogy for the Iranian regime --- which has almost no reliable information --- sweeps aside questions about legitimacy, justice, and human rights.

That&#039;s a shame. If the Leveretts devoted their energy to working for the good of Iranians on all fronts --- not just their caricature of US-Iranian relations --- they could do some good. 

Instead, they play their parts in a Washington Punch-and-Judy show --- neocons v. regime defenders --- that does no good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Standard polemic from the Leveretts.</p>
<p>A negotiation to avoid military conflict, ease sanctions that are hurting Iranians, and resolve the nuclear issue? Absolutely.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not what the priority of this article &#8212; or indeed the book the Leveretts are pushing.</p>
<p>Their narrative of world affairs, based on assertion rather than analysis, is the simplistic &#8220;US is losing, Iran is winning&#8221;.</p>
<p>Perhaps more importantly, their eulogy for the Iranian regime &#8212; which has almost no reliable information &#8212; sweeps aside questions about legitimacy, justice, and human rights.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a shame. If the Leveretts devoted their energy to working for the good of Iranians on all fronts &#8212; not just their caricature of US-Iranian relations &#8212; they could do some good. </p>
<p>Instead, they play their parts in a Washington Punch-and-Judy show &#8212; neocons v. regime defenders &#8212; that does no good.</p>
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