Comments on: How complexity hinders immigration reform http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/04/10/how-complexity-hinders-immigration-reform/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: jskdn http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/04/10/how-complexity-hinders-immigration-reform/#comment-71965 Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:45:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=19482#comment-71965 I read your last paragraph and wondered how you could fail to note the news media’s complicity in suppressing a genuine “public conversation” and open debate about immigration policy. Then I looked over and saw your credentials and reckoned that you were likely another activist pushing a version of the same agenda of the news media.

The public conversation ought first to be about whether the citizens of this country want to limit immigration and if so, as polls for decades have indicated, why they have a government that acts to undermine that end. Limiting immigration means that people who would want to come here can’t and many of those who can will only be able to do so after many years. But having laws that limit immigration make no sense when people can simply immigrate without permission, in violation of the laws of the country, and are subsequently rewarded for those very violations with the right to stay permanently. It offends the treatment of those who are waiting in established lines to be able to immigrate in accordance with the law when those who ignored it and have been living in the country in violation of the law, enjoying the benefits of that, aided by a government that ignores its obligation to uphold the law, and are then given the legal right to continue to do so forever.

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By: AdamSmith http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/04/10/how-complexity-hinders-immigration-reform/#comment-71963 Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:21:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=19482#comment-71963 The paid advocates of immigration conveniently ignore the economic principle of supply and demand, which nature imposes.

Introducing more workers into any market increases the supply and thus drives down the wage rates.

It applies to any resource. If more medical doctors are introduced into a city, the existing medical doctors will find they have fewer patients, and their incomes will go down.

The same applies to agricultural workers. If a rural American county imports foreign laborers from Mexico or India, the existing local laborers will find their wages going down quickly.

Who benefits from immigration? The employers benefit and the immigrants benefit.

Who is hurt by immigration? The American laborer is directly harmed, and his family, home and occupation are, more often than not, destroyed forever.

Who can blame the American worker, whose career is destroyed, for speaking out against immigration? Or even for hating the American government, and immigration advocates, for such a brutal betrayal?

Largest Countries ranked by population:

1. China 1.3 billion people

2. India 1.2 billion people

3. United States 315 million (US growth is now skyrocketing due to immigration)

4. Indonesia 237 million (President Obama went to grade-school there)

5. Brazil 193 million

6. Pakistan 182 million

7. Nigeria 166 million

8. Bangladesh 152 million

9. Russia 143 million

10.Japan 127 million

11.Mexico 112 million

12.Phillipines 92 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou ntries_by_population

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By: Galactus9999 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/04/10/how-complexity-hinders-immigration-reform/#comment-71954 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:08:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=19482#comment-71954 Criminal aliens descending on our Capital. Where is ICE? Why didn’t the Federal Government enforce its immigration laws and start arresting the illegal aliens? We need a Federal Government that will enforce its laws and deport all illegal aliens, secure the border and fine anyone who hires an illegal alien. The gang of Eight is made up of senile old men who can’t remember that we tried Amnesty in 1986 for 3 million illegal aliens and now we have 11 million illegal aliens. We need Immigration Reform to change the laws to make employers of illegal aliens pay the cost of deporting the illegal aliens they hire.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/04/10/how-complexity-hinders-immigration-reform/#comment-71948 Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:35:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=19482#comment-71948 A well though out and documented piece. But let’s “cut to the chase”.

If our elected representatives are seriously suggesting that America be”…eliminating the 3- and 10-year inadmissibility bars, expanding waivers for people with certain criminal convictions, eliminating bars to public benefits, ensuring that legalization covers those with prior deportation orders and ensuring a path for citizenship (not just residence) for the undocumented”, they are advocating the progressive bankruptcy of America.

That is clearly “giving aid and comfort to the enemy” (those who would bankrupt this country). That’s the definition of a traitor. They should be hauled out of their plush offices, stood up against a wall, with or without a blindfold, and SHOT!

Without a far more nuanced and educated public conversation about what Americans are willing to support and see as fair or necessary, the chances are great that immigration “reform” will be just a short-term “fix” requiring a repeat performance in a few years.

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