Comments on: Why did court treat two minorities so differently? http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Benny27 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73796 Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:19:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73796 This hysteria is revealing. Reverse Racism? It just means you are racist. You strike me at the type to say, well if black rap artists can say n—-r, why can’t I?

Perhaps you would have a shred of credibility if affirmative action filled up 100% of seats at institutions. As it is, if you are “discriminated against”, then how come you never were able to get one of the other 90% of places not held aside for affirmative action? (college for instance) perhaps you never would have been accepted in the first place…

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By: FBICHILD http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73765 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 20:29:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73765 @JL4-thank-you for silencing econ cassandra-What an annoying rant-She does not speak for all “white america”

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By: JL4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73753 Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:28:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73753 @Econ, It would take all day to formulate a reply to each point in your long rants.

But for a moment, I’ll hypothetically grant you that whites are now the underbelly of America, victims of “reverse discrimination”. How do YOU like the threat of it? How do YOU like being on the receiving end of wholesale condemnation based on race or nationality? Apparently, it makes you feel considerable anxiety and a little hysterical. Interesting when the shoe just might be on the other foot. You aren’t alone.

I’ll wager that Affirmative Action and/or the Supreme Court will protect YOU in the event your worst fears become reality, and you suffer discrimination as a minority inflicted upon you by a majority, the way whites forced them to suffer throughout our entire history as a nation. Are you sure you want to do away with Affirmative Action? Be careful what you wish for – you just might get it. These emotional, knee-jerk reactions have long-term, unforseen repercussions. It seems you’re deep fear is this: “Turn about is fair play.”

How do you explain the fact that corporate America is still dominated by white males, from middle management up to the board rooms? Our politics have been dominated by white males up until I was a teenager. There is more balance now, but only because minorities have finally been afforded a “somewhat” more level playing field, a field which had to be legally forced on schools, hiring companies, restaurants, swimming pools…you remember don’t you?

Forget the slavery argument – although it doesn’t escape me that my southern grandmother was as racist as they come – after slavery was abolished. She was quite happy with segregation.

I do understand what you’re saying. Because I don’t agree doesn’t mean I’m stupid – it means I think you’re wrong.

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By: EconCassandra http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73706 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:01:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73706 @ JL4 —

Of course “racism is alive an well” in this country, mainly because we have “institutionalized” it as part of our culture and seemingly cannot function without all the whining about it, mainly because of people like you who are racist and want to see this country remain that way — permanently divided.

Mindlessly “screaming “Affirmative Action” without trying to understand what I am saying or why is more than “unbecoming” is stupid beyond belief.

Unless and until you can manage to formulate a reasonable reply to my argument, there is no reason to accommodate your hysteria.

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By: ex-fungi http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73644 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:57:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73644 ‘Gays win, blacks lose’

Axis of Evil? If you are not with us-you are against us!

Riddle me this…Hogs washing in muddy water make…

(pork)

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By: JL4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73640 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:10:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73640 @EconCassandra, Racism is alive and well. You should know that from reading and contributing regularly to Reuter’s posts.

You should know just how easy it is to discriminate against anyone in the work force and skirt around the laws. It’s easy; if a job candidate’s name is “Jamol” or “Habib” you simply put that resume in the “no” pile. If they graduated from high school in 1978, you know how old they are, and if you want someone younger, you put that resume in the “no” file. In short, it’s pretty damned easy to discriminate in the college and job market and you know it. We all know it. Denying that fact doesn’t change a thing.

Screaming “Reverse Discrimination” is unbecoming. There is no reverse discrimination – it’s called Affirmative Action and it’s best use is in college’s and the workplace to force the hiring decision makers to allow the best of the best minorities. News flash, women are minorities – so that means women are guaranteed opportunities they wouldn’t otherwise be offered.

READ some of these comments in other posts, Econ, and tell me that the majority of the racists posting (Zimmerman case, our President…issues large and small) and tell me there isn’t a reason for affirmative action. Tell me there isn’t a reason for Section 5. Tell me there isn’t redistricting to redistribute the minorities’ vote to Republican. You can’t.

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By: EconCassandra http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73617 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 03:06:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73617 @ JL4 —

You have taken “cheap shots” at me previously. Clearly, it is you who have a race problem. I have said many times, I am not a racist, but a realist. What you want is racist, not realistic.

I was in the military when the Supreme Court ruled that segregated schools were unconstitutional, and I participated in some of the implementation of those orders. However, since then the Supreme Court has literally taken the law into its own hands, deciding that simple desegregation was not enough, but resitution had to be made.

At that point the Supreme Court basically threw out the entire Bill of Rights in favor of the 14th Amendment, which in effect denies ANY other citizen the rights guaranteed under the Constitution — many more than could possibly be mentioned in this venue — which is a usurpation and travesty of justice that is unequalled in this country’s history.

Since then, the Supreme Court has denied most of its citizens the right to equal justice under the law in the pursuit of “compensatory justice”.

And how has this “compensatory justice” been applied? By a blanket order depriving anyone who is not black to be the victim of discrimination by setting “racial quotas”.

And where are these victims? They are long dead. And where are the perpetrators of slavery? They are long dead. Has there been ANY effort whatsoever to link the “crime” with the victims of the crime? No. Instead, everyone who is not black has been summarily judged guilty of a crime they did not commit. Is there any rational compelling reason for the Supreme Court to apply punishment to an entire nation in such a manner? No. In fact, the US Constitution strictly forbids the government from taking such actions against its people.

What the Supreme Court has done is an obscene miscarriage of justice no matter how you look at it.

“Affirmative Action” REQUIRES discrimination against another group, which is wrong under the concept of equal justice for all under our Constitution.

It does not matter that the crime is heinous, which it was. It does not matter what “good intentions” the Supreme Court had in enacting this gross miscarriage of justice.

To arbitrarily deny a citizen of the US his/her rights under the Constitution without due process is WRONG.

To make matters worse, other “minority” groups have seized this opportunity to leverage what was done to the blacks in this country to get a “free ride”, which is ugly and deceitful because it denegrates the blacks who might still have reason for Affirmative Action. The blacks in this country deserve that hearing, but it is being turned into a circus by those who would benefit from their tragic years of slavery.

HOW can you possibly justify actions like that taken by people who have actually NO “common cause” with blacks?

To me, it is disgusting to see how the original good intentions by the Supreme Court to set things right have been so twisted and perverted by those who would use this tragedy of slavery to benefit from it.

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By: EconCassandra http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73613 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:18:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73613 @ JL4 —

Thank you for “cherry picking” my argument to “prove” we need to keep giving handouts to people who want it simply because they are not white.

Can you explain to me why we should continue to do that?

As I said above, this is a zero sum game for this nation, whereby we fund “racial-based” programs for those who have no demonstrable need for them.

Many of them have no legal right to be in this country at all, yet they remain because they get special protection not available to whites.

They take our jobs, we pay taxes to support these people who are nothing more than “freeloaders” on our society, and the whining about more, more, more never ends.

You may refer to it as Affirmative Action, but clearly it is racism is its most pernicious form, because it masquerades as something with a noble purpose while it is not, and most of it at the expense of white people.

Racism by any other name is still racism, and racism IS color blind. I have seen as much or more blatant and open racism by non-whites as I have by whites.

By the way, do you know that according to the latest census the white race is now a minority in this country?

If, that is, you include Latinos who are racial chameleons, willing to become either Latinos on their own merit, or a member of a minority group (blacks in this instance) in order to obtain more voting power. What they are doing IS a scam to become the majority.

When that happens blacks will find out rather quickly that Latinos have no such feelings of remorse for blacks as whites do now. You can guess what kind of future blacks will have in this country, not just whites, when they become a majority.

How can this Affirmative Action argument possibly be morally right?

It isn’t. It’s a scam at the expense of anyone in this country who isn’t in on the scam, and it must stop.

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By: JL4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73605 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:47:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73605 @EconCassandra, Whites don’t “own” America. It isn’t “ours”. The Civil War is over – and just as many fought to maintain slavery as did those to end it.

You wax poetic about the soldiers who fought to end slavery. But that’s not what this argument is about.

You wrote:

“How much longer are we to allow this massive scam by these people, this obscene diminution of OUR civil rights as white Americans in the name of “justice” to continue before we no longer have the ability to do anything about it?”

The very fact that you wrote that, and believe it, proves that we still need Affirmative Action.

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By: fr0thing http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/06/28/why-did-court-treat-two-minorities-so-differently/#comment-73557 Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:37:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=21975#comment-73557 Gays win, society loses. Mark my words.

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