Comments on: In Israel, an unsettled peace process http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MideastIssues http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-76926 Sun, 06 Oct 2013 13:03:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-76926 What about the longterm consequences of the settlements? Aren’t Israel shooting themselves in the foot, by eliminating the possible of a two state solution and leading the way towards a one state solution, in which they would lose their jewish identity, their autonomy and their majority (larger Palestinian population)?

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By: borisjimbo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-74683 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:48:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-74683 For one thing they’re not settlements, they’re colonies unless they’re built on land Israel had pre-’67. They have the entire Negev to build on but they put their finger in the eye of every Palestinian by building on disputed ground.

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-74681 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:38:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-74681 I don’t believe Netanyahu wants a real negotiation. These pretend negotiations are just a fig leaf, providing a little bit more cover as the Hebrews continue on with their plans to gobble up more of the West Bank. I disagree that Hamas and the other hardliners are rejectionists; they are realists and they refuse to do things just to make the U.S. or the Israelis look good. What’s hard to understand is why Abbas would even do this. Perhaps he feels it will help him hang onto his leadership role a little longer, but really I have no idea. Apparently all the humiliations over the years haven’t been enough for him to just say “screw it, and screw you” and go off to France or wherever and enjoy a decent retirement. The J Street author contends that somehow Israeli leaders will have to confront the settler groups at some point, but if they can’t even freeze settlements now for a time, how can it be expected that they will “confront” settler groups later on? It’s an impossible dream. Instead, what the land and people are headed for is a long period of apartheid style separation, followed by the ultimate dissolution of the Jewish state, as Palestinian Arabs eventually overwhelm the Jewish minority.

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By: 2Borknot2B http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-74678 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:22:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-74678 “These announcements do determine the future of the peace talks, they are provocative and make the negotiations more difficult” to impossible. They constrict the ability to make concessions, and give ammunition to Hamas and other rejectionist groups to perpetuate Jihad and continue to usher in and create a ripe environment for WW3. Netanyahu is not serious about making peace, he is only concerned with creating his perfect Jewish State at everyone else’s expense, epically the average “Christian” tax paying American.

“Netanyahu told him and Abbas that these announcements were coming and maintained they would not affect Israel’s ability to negotiate.” They only effect everyone else’s ability no negotiate. “The United States regards all settlements as “illegitimate.”” And, so what if the US holds this public opinion, it makes absolutely no difference what so ever what the US thinks, just keep the US tax checks and military going.

““Deception, shame, concealment, denial and repression have characterized the state’s behavior with respect to the flow of funds to the settlements,” they write. “It can be said that this has been an act of public duplicity in which all the Israeli governments since 1967 have been partner.”” And the US government. A third of the Waste Bank is off limits for building unless you are a Jew. In the US this is called “red lining” and is generally considered discriminatory (but that law, like most others, doesn’t really matter and “it” happens anyway.)

There will not be peace, the US Government cannot afford to lose our Number one Industry. Israeli security concerns must be addressed ideally by Israel as a Sovereign Country. Please, keep the US out of Israel’s bedroom. We have enough of our own problems and don’t need to take on Israel’s problems as well. There will not and cannot be “an agreement of a majority of the Israeli people as well as the Palestinians.”

“The showdown will probably come if and when a deal is struck that involves the evacuation of tens of thousands of settlers from a future Palestinian state.” Why doesn’t the UN just relocate the Palestinian people to their own country. Just tell them that god said they can have a third of France for example. Or, why can’t we give them Florida or Galveston Island?

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By: Flash1022 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-74666 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:15:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-74666 Israel suffers from the battered spouse syndrome that will continue for generations until it takes responsibility for ignoring its own transgressions.

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By: irwin2 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/08/14/in-israel-an-unsettled-peace-process/#comment-74650 Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:27:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23136#comment-74650 What is most astonishing is the extraordinary difference in Washington’s reaction to the Israeli announcements of new settlement building and to the Palestinians’ announcement last year that they would seek nonmember observer state status from the UN General Assembly. Mr. Kerry appeared to accept the new burst of settlement activity after noting that he had been tipped off in advance by Mr. Netanyahu. But the Obama administration launched a worldwide diplomatic campaign to put pressure on the Palestinians to back off from going to the U.N., insisting that all matters must be resolved by negotiations between the parties. The Palestinians are expected to respond to every U.S. entreaty while the Israelis respond to no one.

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