Comments on: The endless debate over genetic engineering http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75776 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:15:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75776 Crops have always been about genetic manipulation. That’s what makes them crops. Ever come across a nice plump wild watermelon while out on a walk? You won’t. They don’t exist in nature. They are a 3,000 year old genetically man-made schitstorm. Along with corn (including organic corn), beans (any beans), etc.

The wild relatives of these plants look like common weeds. Crops are man-made. That’s reality.

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By: Des3Maisons http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75770 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:01:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75770 It really doesn’t make any difference whether genetically modified foods are safe or not. Neither the biotech industry nor our own government has given us any reason whatsoever to trust them. It’s all about money, secrecy, bullying, lack of transparency, lies and buying politicians. Look at the reputation that just Monsanto alone has. Need I say more?

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By: Des3Maisons http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75767 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:04:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75767 “Genetic engineering has been a runaway commercial success in the United States — 60 percent to 70 percent of processed foods on American supermarket shelves contain GM ingredients…”

It’s a commercial success because people aren’t allowed to know what they’re eating. The corporate prostitutes in the U.S. Congress voted against GMO labeling so they could get their campaign war chests filled by the biotech companies.

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75727 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:40:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75727 “Many of the methods require modification of a retro virus first, this is what does the actual genetic modification in the plant, and this is where the untested (often tested but not known to the general public) dangers lie. These bugs have been known to infect gut flora”

Nonsense. There is no persistent bio-vector. That is made up. That’s like saying that the use of gasoline may lead to an outbreak of dinosaurs. “Because the root material was dinosaurs.” So?

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By: BidnisMan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75719 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:50:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75719 @Calfri – Don’t be so naïve. In all industries so called independent verification is always anything but independent in reality. Auditors, credit rating agencies, government regulators. There is a revolving door between theses people and positions which pay real money within business.

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By: epockismet http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75717 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:11:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75717 Everyone loves skipping over the actual discussion of the tech behind GM as though it has already happened like it was evolution or something. Many of the methods require modification of a retro virus first, this is what does the actual genetic modification in the plant, and this is where the untested (often tested but not known to the general public) dangers lie. These bugs have been known to infect gut flora and it has been detected that those who ate genetically modified corn that produced pesticide, continued to excrete pesticide in their stool until they took a regimen of antibiotics to remove their gut flora, which is pretty much the opposite of healthy. When this knowledge is kept by the same companies that are trying to force laws around the world to make this tech commonplace with absolutely NO long term testing. This is the kind of greed that turn people into monsters, and monsters need to be stopped.

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By: LiarWatch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75713 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:36:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75713 Don’t eat it. Don’t buy it, and don’t buy products made of it. Let’s get these organic food prices relatively lower.

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By: Joohn2 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75711 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 16:04:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75711 There was a good piece on a blog of the New York Times recently, which also adds to what is discussed here, in particular regarding Pollan: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0 8/27/from-mark-lynas-to-michael-pollan-a greement-that-golden-rice-trials-should- proceed/
And Shiva’s relationship with facts has e.g. been elaborated on a blog of Discover Magazine: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collid eascape/?p=10767

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75709 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:27:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75709 “The key problem, though, is that the Food and Drug Administration depends on producers of GM foods to evaluate the safety of their own products. There is no independent scientific verification of these industry assessments.”

But that isn’t true. When these technologies are evaluated, independents scientists are used to critically evaluate the technologies. I don’t know why the writer here says otherwise. Sure, the companies have to pay a registration fee; how could it be otherwise? But that doesn’t equal a lack of independence. Quoting Michael Pollan? But he’s stupid. What does he know?

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By: BidnisMan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/08/the-endless-debate-over-genetic-engineering/#comment-75707 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:01:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=23741#comment-75707 History repeats itself. Nuclear power is safe – then Chernobyl. Medical testing is safe – then Thalidomide. GM foods are tested safe – then X. The first principle of life is never trust someone trying to sell you something. 100 years of testing would be much more comfortable than 20 – and it must be done in an crowd source way and not by lab technicians whose bonus depends on approving things as ‘safe’. The age of the man in the street trusting the president/NSA/banks/business/medical/sci entists/whoever based on a vague belief in human nature is hopefully gone.

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