Comments on: Stepping up to the plate to reduce food waste http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Bob9999 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76310 Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:22:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76310 All ideas for reducing food waste are important. This includes better labeling, as well as less wasteful food practices in homes and restaurants.

Remember that economic effects are found at the margins. A five percent reduction in food purchases would be statistically significant. (It would be a two-standard deviations effect.) That marginal change would be enough to put downward pressure on food pricing, and such downward pressure would make food more available to those who, at the margin, are finding it difficult to obtain enough food.

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By: RD137 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76285 Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:06:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76285 The problem is not in our food industry…it’s in our legal system. This article is correct in that “sell by” and “use by” dates are pretty much meaninless, but it’s wrong on why they’re there. The ONLY reason those labels are on food products to protect food manufactures from getting sued by our “sue happy” society for trying to sell inferior/spoiled products to consumers.

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By: meleze http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76281 Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76281 This article is really a joke to mask the presence and the location on the PNUD in Kenya at Nairobi. Was is the meaning of a debate on the wastes at the moment where take place one of the biggests islamist attack ever happening inside a Nairobi’s mall?

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76273 Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:16:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76273 Wow, another great Op-Ed by @OOTS. Reuters is getting an extra columnist for free! I’d love to respond again but it’s late and I’ve been working all night. And beside, scanning thru it seems we once again are in agreement, just in different tones.
Thanks @OOTS.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76252 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:47:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76252 @tmc,

I read the article on the Pope’s latest pronouncements, and believe him a good man frustrated, as are many, with the world wide exploding unemployment issue. The frustration, denial, and anger he and they express do nothing to identify and address the two “real problems”, which are (1) too many people for our earth to support with it’s finite resources and (2) an ever-increasing number of them with no “place or function” in ever more efficient commerce.

Money is not a “God, any more than air, or “the weather”. It’s flow is poorly comprehended but the effects of such flow are apparent to one and all. When understood, money or weather can be as useful a tool as fire. Each is almost unlimited in it’s capacity to make life better or worse. These potent forces must be properly focused and controlled, or “harnessed” to such ends are are mutually and collectively deemed desirable.

When we know no better, we can to start with those effects which are relatively obvious; and, therefore predictable. If we use these to make our society better and stronger, each successful manipulation should reveal more and more worthwhile possibilities to explore.

Commerce and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. And coin, or money, is merely an irresistable carrot that induces people to get off their fat, comfortable butts and do something.

It is NOT for “corporations” or business of any construct to create the incentives that will put day-to-day commerce “in the trenches” to create the mutually supportive society necessary for a better, more secure future for ALL! This is perhaps the single legitimate function of federal, state and local government, and a vital responsibility that has largely been abdicated.

“We, the people” must step forward and elect representatives with vision that have the backbone and conviction to prioritize and employ our huge resources to this end. Today these resources are being wasted buying votes and “job security” by and for our politicians. The failure and dysfunction of today’s “government” is a OUR failure. It is a continuing one because we keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

The economists of today are where doctors were before WW II, where much of what they “knew” was wrong and no one knew which half. Medical knowledge is advancing at a rate unprecedented and the cost of medical care in a modern society is yet to be “put in it’s place”.

Nonetheless, the first modern human who could live to an age of one thousand may have already been born. Looking at our thousands of years of recorded history, is it not obvious that we do not need MORE AND MORE people but BETTER AND BETTER people?

All countries who embrace a “culture of life” are increasingly facing a challenge none have solved. Even if they can feed that part of their population that has NOTHING TO DO but fornicate (and many cannot), they have yet to find a way to “employ” such “resource” such that an economic burden becomes an economic asset. Nothing less than world peace depends on resolving this challenge. If it were easy it would have been done long ago.

The single obvious method to prevent even more future misery is for governments to introduce contraceptives into the water supply the world over because our present “herd” is more than available “pasture” can support. Before the current “economic miracle” was possible for China “understood” and implemented it’s “one child” policy to buy the necessary time for progressive reform.

How do societies turn their uneducated, their unskilled, their unmotivated who have NO land, money or productive place in their society into a positive economic asset? The sole such effort I am aware of in America to do this was the WPA, and WW II ended the economic conditions that made it necessary long before whether that would have been a long term success or failure could be known.

But our WPA was only possible at a time of soup kitchens and widespread economic insufficiency and want. We live in a world utterly different from the 1930s. Fully a third of our young people are too fat, too stupid or otherwise to qualify for acceptance into our armed forces.

Today with our Fed’s printing presses running 24/7 spewing out countless “dollars” (that each debase those existing before and purchase NOTHING of value), we have created an exploding “underclass” of the “poor” that drive, have flat screen TVs and cable TV, and cell phones and would live in relative comfort and security were it not that they prey on themselves out of sheer boredom.

Their children get free school lunches (year round), free vaccinations, are bussed to schools. Yet not only do they refuse to meaningfully participate in our public educational process, but they mock those who do and openly and repeatedly disrupt and dilute that process.

These individuals are being indoctrinated day-by-day, week-by-week, month after month and year after year that society owes them a living and they need do NOTHING in return. Until we change that, how do we get this “counter-culture” off it’s butts and out doing something productive for society?

Rome staged massive “games” to keep it’s people’s attention diverted from political mischief. Today that entertainment is provided by TV and people need not leave the comfort of their homes. It’s not working, and discontent is rising. Rome, too, fell.

For the unemployed fifty-year old machinist, the teacher that can’t teach, the graduate who can’t get their first job (and leave home) we need HONEST programs that train and place…that change square pegs to fit round holes. While, in the long term, society needs fewer and fewer to do what must be done, today much that society NEEDS (such as getting trash off our roads and updating or expanding our infrastructure) is simply being ignored.

We don’t need “Survivor” or “Wheel of Fortune” winners. We need people who can fiigure out how to break down useless trash into reusable resources at a cost competitive with continuing to rape the earth. We don’t need more football or basketball teams, but we do need “big brothers” who can and will teach the disadvantaged or illiterate skills they need to “succeed”.

We need to get these people to comprehend what it means to be a valued member of a productive society and the qualities they must develop and offer to be part of that. How can they do that so long as they have no respect for honest work or those that perform it? If they are not willing to “show up” reliably and pull their weight without being asked or told to they can not change who they are. If most do not change who they are, they are not moving forward toward a productive life, but to JAIL! They need both the carrot and the stick.

It is not the dreams of the few and the lofty that will transform life for the multitudes, but hope. Not the useless illusion of hope unrealistic, but the hope that comes from individual effort “invested” with reasonable efficiency pursuing worthy and reasonable collective goals.

These need to be broken down such that each can see the results of their contribution, for the confidence and pride that comes from success can supercharge any process. For every pyramid that can be constructed by beating slaves, two or three can be constructed by proper organization and motivation and then those “in charge” just getting out of the way!

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By: tmc http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76248 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:59:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76248 Glad I can still make you think a bit @OOTS.
How does the “corporate American implementation” of capitalism different from that by the “mom and pop and the rest of the family” implementation under a sole proprietorship, partnership” A LOT! Capitalism is not the problem. Virtually every country throughout history has some form of capitalism. Pure socialism never lasts and there are very few examples of it in history. It is the form of capitalism, the amount that as you say, it is “harnessed” that makes the difference. The national and global monsters that we have created have no collective ethics, no morals, and no humanity at all. They are actually designed to eliminate those things. No one has responsibility or accountability for what they do. This allows a corporation to do reprehensible things on a regular basis. The mom & pop shop, sole proprietor, partnership “small to medium business” or SMBs as the MBAs like to call them, are truly people. They conduct business with responsibility and accountability. True, some do not. But they don’t move a chemical plant to a country that has no regulations when they know it kills people. Dow Chemicals does. My mothers best friend just retired and had to move to another town because as CEO of a small plastic extrusion company, she could not stomach the devastation to the town when she was forced to move it to china. The townsfolk hated her. She could not walk down the street or go to her church anymore. She didn’t want to do it, but all of her competitors did, so she had to either move it, or lose it.
By the way @OOTS, did you see the article on the Pope and his opinion of what the American capitalism has become? http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/2 2/us-pope-economy-idUSBRE98L04H20130922
Just because some good comes from their evil, it does not condone or make evil right.
Corporations are NOT people. They are designed NOT to be. They are trying to convince you they are by SPIN in their language, lying in “people” language, so they can destroy your smaller company.
The USA has perished. The USCA has taken over.
Support the Liberty Amendments and take back our country.

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By: EndGroceryWaste http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76247 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:17:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76247 The large amount of fresh food waste is a lose-lose situation for the environment, retailers and the struggling families in today’s tough economy. We should address the waste problem in every link in our food supply chain.
As an example, the excess inventory of perishable food items close to their expiration causes waste. Why not let the consumer perform the perishables rotation by offering him proper incentives?
There is a new GS1 DataBar global standard that enables an automatic incentive offering application for fresh food close to its expiration. This application encourages efficient consumer shopping behavior that maximizes grocery retailer revenue and makes fresh food affordable for all families while effectively reducing the global carbon footprint. I encourage food retailers to look into the GS1 DataBar emerging standard.
An example of an application (based on GS1 DataBar standard) that could help us win a battle in the food waste war is illustrated at EndGroceryWaste.com, and I would greatly appreciate your feedback.

Rod Averbuch,
Rod@EndGroceryWaste.com
Chicago, IL

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76231 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:44:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76231 @tmc,

I think you oversimplify, just as the Supreme Court oversimplified something much more complex in saying that corporations are “people”. Nonetheless, “corporate” actions and inactions usually reflect the pursuit of adopted goals.

In some, the Board “calls the shots”; in others it is the shareholder/owners, or some combination thereof. There is a “collective interest” that cannot be ignored, and also a “collective responsibility” and “collective liability” when their actions are contrary to statute or applicable regulation.

Just as the wild mustang does no productive work, businesses must be harnessed by society to do what we would have them do. They have no “social obligation” whatsoever towards the society that spawns them, and so such functions must be devised and imposed from outside.

How does the “corporate American implementation” of capitalism different from that by the “mom and pop and the rest of the family” implementation under a sole proprietorship, partnership, or limited liability company (LLC)? The corporation is but one of a variety of business structures, no more or less uniquely suspect and “guilty by definition” or association than any other. Proportional to their capitalization and customer base, any of these can make political contributions or otherwise “lobby” to influence legislators or legislation in their favor.

I believe the overall “standard of living” and day-to-day comforts available to the great majority of Americans enjoy TODAY still superior to any other modern nation of realistic choice. America remains, as always, a “work in progress”; a mighty locomotive WE have built and OWN.

We may “trust” our elected representatives, leaders, agencies and bureaucrats to keep it moving on a “day-to-day” basis toward some fuzzy illusion of Utopia. But when they shirk on necessary maintenance or head it off the tracks it is for us to sound the alarm and remedy as necessary. In the end, WE COLLECTIVELY have far more at stake than any of THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

I continue to believe capitalism the ONLY recipe for the “bigger pie” that Americans have long worked harder, longer and smarter for than citizens of other countries. It is the excess thus created, a reasonable portion of which each such individual must be allowed to keep, that is responsible for the relative bounty of American life. To date no one has demonstrated a credibly superior alternative.

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By: ptiffany http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76230 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:03:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76230 It’s interesting how the bottlers and canners of beer fill these containers with a fluid that contains a preservative – alcohol – that can survive without degrading for ten to twenty years, yet they have put one year expiration dates on the containers! The incredible arrogance and greed!

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By: ptiffany http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/09/20/stepping-up-to-the-plate-to-reduce-food-waste/#comment-76229 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:40:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=24255#comment-76229 It’s interesting how the bottlers and canners of beer fill these containers with a fluid that contains a preservative – alcohol – that can survive without degrading for ten to twenty years, yet they have put one year expiration dates on the containers! The incredible arrogance and greed!

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