Comments on: Putin’s Ukraine invasion threat is more than a bluff — but not his preference http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: LOTOGO http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-90073 Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:43:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-90073 Putin’s strategy is aimed at keeping western attention on eastern Ukrainian cities, and off the Crimea. If he can maintain the tensions in eastern Ukraine for an extended period, every passing day improves Russian odds of gaining Crimea without a fight or sanctions.

The west’s best chance to finally stop Russian expansion is to concede none of Ukraine, including not a millimeter of the Crimea.

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By: Moties001 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-90017 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:25:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-90017 Its amazing how time distorts the facts, this whole situation is to force Russia into invading Ukraine. Every effort is being made by the US and NATO to bring this about. Putin is aware of this that is why he has backed off so far. The US requires Russia to be economically weak as this would remove them as a possible future threat and leave the US in control of Europe, allowing them to concentrate in Asia. This of course as the article states will result only in one thing war in Europe. This will destroy the fragile EU economies but leave the US strong and un touched.

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By: gordo53 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89992 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:27:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89992 Given that Putin’s long term goal is to reconstitute as much of the old Soviet Union as possible, barring capitulation by Ukraine, invasion is the most likely outcome. A successful invasion would also tend to weaken the resolve of other former Soviet states. Putin’s view is that the breakup of the old Soviet Union was an epic disaster. He is doing all he can to correct the “problem”.

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By: jacobsch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89989 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:46:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89989 Ukraine must defeat the separitsts, and get control on the border. Russia can attac Ukraine and winn millitary. But then they can not winn the peace again. No part of Ukraine is Russian! !5 000 Russian led separatist are now holding 2 cities and a huge area. Ukraine can fight an Russian occupation for a long time giving Russia huge costs. Russia can not afford to occupy Ukraine. many greetings Jacob Schonberg

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By: hadmatter http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89985 Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:33:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89985 Putin will not give up until he has practical control of Eastern Ukraine for the simple reason that he annexed Crimea. There is no practical way for him to supply goods and services to Crimea without a direct land route. Look at a map. Sending ships down river to the Sea of Azov is not practical. Going by land to Kerch, then ferrying everything across the strait is not practical [Dolgostroj will doom any bridge!]. Sending ships around Western Europe, through the Med, and into the Black Sea is not practical. An airlift within the territory of Russia is possible, but not practical in the long run. If Russia cannot drive trucks through Eastern Ukraine, the annexation of Crimea will fail miserably. Ergo, he has no choice but to do whatever is necessary to gain this land bridge.

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By: Macedonian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89977 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 22:41:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89977 There are reports of organ trafficking in East Ukraine done by the Ukrainian side.

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By: merlinsg http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89971 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:24:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89971 the logistic of moving 20,000 troops and equipment and position them where they are is too complex to be just an empty threat, Putin will order the invasion very soon, he had done that before. he doesn’t care what his people think of him, he does everything which he thinks is right for his country. the reason why his domestic ratings had risen after each face off with the west also says something about the people, they know they had been bullied for too long.

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By: Vauthier http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89961 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:48:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89961 Has there ever been substantive, back channel discussions between Ukraine and the Russian Federation on “deep federalization” or did the political context render that moot?

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By: Calpin http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89959 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:21:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89959 But how can any of this change anything? Poroshenko is still going to continue his operation against the rebels in the east, in any event. If Russia invades and helps to repel Ukrainian government forces, then at least the charade of Russia’s non-involvement will be over for certain. As Bremmer points out, this will open the door wide open for the harshest sanctions yet, which will do further harm to Russia’s economy.

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By: hertsred http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/06/putins-ukraine-invasion-threat-is-more-than-a-bluff-but-not-his-preference/#comment-89953 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:06:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=33474#comment-89953 A good article. It is sad that the Ukrainian military and militias are doing all they can to assist Putin, by using heavy weapons on civilian areas and by killing hundreds of civilians and forcing hundreds of thousands to flee their homes. The government in forcibly trying unite Ukrainian territory is creating even deeper divisions between the people that will last for many years. A slower more cautious, more political approach to dealing with the rebels would have been more sensible and played far less into Putin’s hands.

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