Comments on: Ferguson questions swirl: If it’s about finding facts, why no trial? http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: shootmyownfood http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-101035 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 22:27:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-101035 Say, there, Dragos111 – before you go impugning folks for their lack of knowledge, perhaps you should educate yourself first. A grand jury is not a “jury of one’s peers.” There is also NO discovery process. A grand jury is seated to decide if there is enough evidence to proceed with prosecution, not to decide guilt or innocence. They are only presented with one side of the case – the prosecutor’s. In this case, the prosecutor is suspect. He is the presiding official of the group that received 50% of the donations to Officer Wilson. Do you suppose that there might just possibly be a conflict of interest?

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By: DonWgg http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-100215 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 00:45:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-100215 The evidence doesn’t matter, the officer is guilty because he is white ,down with racism? But we believed all the lies about hands up ,now we find that we were wrong and instead of backing respectfully down we fan the flames of ignorance and racism.What kind of news is this?

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99977 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:41:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99977 Prosecutor:

“My friend in the police department here…. i mean… the accused… who killed an unarmed person because he was apparently unable to restrain him….he told us so himself…. is so innocent….. there is no need for a trial. He’s INNOCENT!”

Yeah okay.

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By: phaber74 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99915 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:36:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99915 We really need to demand more from our media. All reports seem to do these days is write divisive opinion pieces. All they are about is getting people to their page or channel so they can sell more ad space at a higher amount. They could careless about doing the public a service of just reporting facts.

just like before the Grand Jury’s decision we knew very few things; Brown was a thief and bully according to store video/school records, Wilson stopped Brown and his friend in the middle of road to tell them to walk on the sidewalk, some kind of altercation happened which ended with Wilson shooting Brown.

If these simple facts were laid out and it was a white cop shooting a white guy it won’t have even made the news… ok maybe a local new channel but would they have even taken sides in the matter??

The rest of Brown’s innocence and Wilson’s guilt was made up by the media just to get a bigger story. Well… If I were the citizens of Ferguson I would sue the media for incitement which led to the wholesale destruction of my community.

The media should rebuild what they had a very big part in destroying.

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By: ScreenName1978 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99884 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:14:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99884 Mikelo,
This whole thing is a spectacle because of people like Sharpton. It should never have made national headlines. Local news should have reported, “earlier today, a drugged up man robbed a market and roughed up the clerk. (see CCTV video) The perpetrator later assaulted a police officer in his vehicle and attempted to gain control of his service weapon. The police officer shot and killed the man. Now let’s go to sports…” This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that M. Brown broke several laws and had no respect for his own or other peoples’ lives. It’s sad, but this doesn’t happen to people who make a reasonable effort to follow the law. It’s not hard… I feel sorry for M. Brown because he obviously missed something growing up. But this isn’t cause for national protest. Yes black lives matter. Police lives matter also. Happy Thanksgiving.

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By: DWise http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99862 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:48:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99862 Ms. Sullivan – let me answer your question (Ferguson questions swirl: If it’s about finding facts, why no trial?).

When a grand jury is convened, they determine whether or not there was even enough evidence to HAVE a trial. In this case, and they were presented with exhaustive evidence, the grand jury determined that NO TRIAL WAS WARRANTED OR NECESSARY. It’s that simple.

So – there will be no trial, because there is not enough evidence to charge Officer Wilson with a crime.

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By: StevenPiper http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99830 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:44:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99830 Why in the world was this piece even written? As one of the other posters suggested, this simply adds gasoline to the flames. The police officer was doing his job in an entirely appropriate manner and for that he has been crucified by an irresponsible press. Give it a rest. Real justice prevailed.

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By: Mikelo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99827 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 07:15:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99827 Excellent analysis by Silver and very helpful links. I’m distressed at the vitriol and thoughtlessness in the majority of comments on this piece. Also, the ignorance about the Grand Jury process and function is distressing, not only in the comments, but right up to the completely inappropriate actions of the so-called prosecutor, McCulloch. Moreover, people are reporting as fact one side of competing claims that were not subject to proper cross-examination as would occur in a trial. For example, Wilson was not subject to cross-examination. Rev. Sharpton hit the nail on the head when he observed what a spectacle this is, a prosecutor defending the killer, prosecuting the victim, and discrediting witnesses. McCulloch’s behavior at the press conference was that of someone who had decided at the outset how the decision should go and the only problem was how to structure the proceedings to get the desired result.

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By: Robert76 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99815 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 05:24:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99815 I also would trust in a Grand Jury which covered all the facts, heard from all the witnesses (including those lying to achieve their agenda) and came to a decision not to indict the police officer.

We have seen people who should know better fanning the flames of anger and as a result, once again we have rioting, arson (a crime), and looting (another crime). Just what is any of these further crimes going to prove. All that has happened is the theft and destruction of property. It is doubtful that any of these businesses will reopen. Now the unemployment with get worse, the hopelessness will get worse. Again, just what has been accomplished?

You never see white people rioting when a black man kills a white man. Is this a reaction reserved only for the black man? It is time to stop this insane and destructive behavior while there is still something left of Ferguson.

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By: columbia93 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/25/ferguson-questions-swirl-if-its-about-finding-facts-why-no-trial/#comment-99809 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 04:18:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=36040#comment-99809 I just love how this writer (and those she quotes) calls the Ferguson leaders incompetent (on the generous side – malevolent on the side they seem to actually believe). This writer et al fail to recognized that Ferguson is essentially a small town that was/is not equipped to deal with violence at this level, beginning with a large, enraged black man attacking a policeman through the car window. They have also failed to recognize that this violence and fear have been perpetrated throughout this small community for a long time – too long of a time by far. They have also failed to recognize that the actions of those committing this violence, mostly black, are NOT noble, noteworthy, or to be sanctioned by any civil, political or religious organization. These people are behaving like animals and the media are the circus clowns, prodding and poking the beasts to inflate the entertainment value of an extremely sleazy show. Thanks to these sorry clowns, the PERPETRATORS who are committing crime after crime with their daily violent and poisonous actions, and being molded into false underdogs so that even folks with a bit more sense are coming to their aid. PEOPLE – those engaged in the riots and marches and viperous rhetoric, as well as Michael Brown, are NOT innocent victims! Go home, there is no place in Ferguson for any of you. It cannot be said enough that in Kansas City, which is on the other side of the state for those of you without any sense, 2 small black girls on separate occasions were killed since Michael Brown’s death and NO ONE, including Jackson, Sharpton, etc., has given them a second thought or moment of attention. Apparently, black people of all ages are fair game for other black folk while white police are supposed to turn their backs on black criminals.

As to incompetent/malevolent leadership – do any of these writers recall a black mayor of New Orleans that proved himself to be both incompetent and malevolent? It is evident that not just black people excuse themselves from bad and reprehensible behavior – it seems that all other races are required to give them a pass on EVERYTHING…or they might just steal everything we own, burn down our houses, or kill us in our sleep. Or at least that is what we must believe based on what we are seeing in the media. The victims here are the black people who live productive and generous lives, who follow the rules and reject the violence we are currently seeing.

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