Comments on: Secularism – not sensitivity – is the key to democracy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: My Website 2015 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-470248 Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:53:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-470248 Im obliged for the article post.Really thank you! Cool.

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By: bulk message gateway http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-356737 Tue, 03 Mar 2015 11:32:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-356737 Thank you for your blog.Really thank you! Keep writing.

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By: Mary Fishing http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-345704 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 15:46:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-345704 Thanks so much for the article post.Really thank you! Will read on…

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By: paintcan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-125632 Sat, 31 Jan 2015 17:10:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-125632 The so called jihadists it France were amateurs at suppression of expression. It takes professionals like product advertisers, the major media and their commercial sponsors to put the real squeeze on freedom of expression.

Has everyone forgotten about the Anti-defamation League? The NAACP could get very testy too. The American public lives with so much suppression of expression it’s the air they breath. They just don’t recognize it or talk about it. The media even caved in to the Little Pudge in N. Korea but they sure will when the advertisers get nervous or too opinionated. They can also reinstate the funding if they think public attention is elsewhere.

The article should say – this country doesn’t really believe in anything you can’t make money on, or not for long anyway.

It may well turn out in the future that western technology built the shell of modern life but Islam and some other religions may be building what actually will live in it.

Don’t worry. It won’t be a vast spiritual or social improvement. The people then will be used to the hypocrisy they are bred too.

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-124555 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:16:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-124555 “Has ever USA criticized Saudi Arabia for the violation of human rights? Where are the cartoons about them?”

Yes. Here are a bunch of them:

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By: riggbeck http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-124468 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:35:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-124468 The racist caricatures of Mohammed insult all Muslims. You wouldn’t use a caricature of Jesus to represent the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church or the Lord’s Resistance Army.

This plays right into the hands of people who like nothing better than to portray Muslims in general as an evil, monolithic group. Their irrational zealotry perfectly matches that of the Jihadists, who should be mercilessly lampooned. Preferably without alienating the Muslims who also despise them.

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By: zac48 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-124259 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:42:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-124259 Secularism is a belief system and a “religion” in it’s own right.

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By: RealityCheck777 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-123998 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 05:32:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-123998 Although I agree with freedom of speech (in extension being expression) and a secular’s rightful stance that nothing is above critism. I find articles like these a side show distraction, aimed solely for victim recognition, without examination of facts or real motives. This isn’t a case of a girl who got raped because of the outfit she was wearing… This is a case of a girl, who was murdered because her family had did something horrible and continues to do so. These Islamist militants targeted Charlie’s office for one purpose, not to silence freedom of speech but for the very publicity that freedom of speech brings. They understood very well the repercussions of targeting the government they resented wouldn’t lead to much movement, so they went after the simplest target to provoke a massive reaction (from both non-muslims & muslims). I don’t see why such extravagant and extensive analyses are written as an attack on freedom of speech? They want to silence democracy as a whole because its those same democracies which had and continue to do their own atrocities. So please stop and take accountability. The exact “freedom of expression” has been an ugly, clever mask used to spread as much hate as it has love. Expressions by one side feeling superior enough to ridicule and critique have lead to to deaths of millions in merciless bloody campaigns without religious influence. Have secular’s forgotten human ambition, greed and selfishness don’t need religious, racial or social justification. Now let’s return to the statements made within this article… a black man eating a banana, or a Jew counting money. Are these not the same horrific stereotypes, which at pivotal points in history, through the avenue of “freedom of speech” used to inspire animosity and hatred which consequently lead to the enslavement, abuse and genocides of these groups. All because someone was using his pen for evil, by portraying the other side as inferior or a savage. To say a satire cartoon doesn’t inspire is hypocritical. They have and will continue to do so… Democracy’s fore fathers fought against religious persecution, tyranny and taxation… Using political satire, words of expression to inspire the masses to join in fight against their foes. The same founding father’s used images to depict superiority over savages, which were in dire need of a civilized master. Same satire used to convince the masses it was ok to enslave, rape or kill anyone from a different race, religion or political belief that didn’t match theirs. So yes satire, freedom of expression has done as much as evil as religious scripture. Just like religion, Democracy a belief in itself, has also become arrogant and blind to its own bloody, spiteful history. And if a secular will argue that was the past and “who cares”, then they are sadly delusional to the world at large. Even if you remove religious influence from government, you have not removed the injustice nor will you erase the animosity that is fueling groups set out for revenge. Taking accountability is the first step to implementing change, so Sensitvity over democracy is much needed in order to accomplish peace and harmony for all.

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By: bogdan99 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-123975 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 04:53:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-123975 Has ever USA criticized Saudi Arabia for the violation of human rights? Where are the cartoons about them? Or again some personages are untouchable?

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By: CarolineWebb http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/secularism-not-sensitivity-is-the-key-to-democracy/#comment-123929 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:51:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37454#comment-123929 The satirical depiction of prophet Mohammed has been done – and I hope will continue to be done by some brave souls – because the religion he spawned has overt supremacist goals to conquer the world, for which violence is deemed necessary, desirable, inevitable. Many Muslims ignore this idea repeated in their scriptures but some don’t. This is totally different from snide stereotyped cartoons that demean particular groups. Lloyd is making this point in this article (‘Islam has a radical fringe whose members want to establish a caliphate over as much of the world as possible and are hideously violent’) but too many want to sweep this incredibly important political point under the carpet because the depiction of a great symbolic figure appears to be painting all followers with the same brush. Certainly many followers of Mohammed have taken it to mean this, hence the acute ‘reaction’.

But if no one can point out that a religious symbol is in fact proposing totalitarian kind of ideas which run exactly opposite to ideas of freedom, democracy, human rights, women’s rights, gay rights, atheist rights – you name it – then we are sinking into darkness, intellectually and politically. If Muslims themselves are currently unable to speak up, because to do so opens them up to intimidation and violence (which it does) then it falls to those unbelievers to speak up as often as possible – and to keep on drawing cartoons that draw attention to this belligerent aspect of Islam. Only by doing so do we stand a chance that some Muslims will speak openly with their co-religionists about ceasing to take the Koran and the Hadith literally. Because we see all too clearly that those texts have doctrines which are just unacceptable in today’s world and which need to die – their energy completely vanquished by collective decision.

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