Comments on: Why we should worry about domestic drones and how to bring them down http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Mott http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-199785 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 05:45:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-199785 Perhaps the scariest part of this technology is the low-cost. Imagine a swarm of drones at $100 each, programmed at a target loaded with miniature WMD, should send chills down the spine. This would mean sharpening of technologies in the areas of – EMP, lasers and other as counter measure.

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By: The_Traveler http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-131684 Sun, 08 Feb 2015 14:48:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-131684 I wouldn’t worry too much about it. After a few drones are brought down in public areas and the lawyers and insurance companies get done, I think the idea will fade away. Imagine the public backlash if even a small drone came down in a school yard, or a public playground and injured or killed a child? The idea is an interesting one, but I’d say far from practical at this stage. I’ll simply get in my self-driving car and go to the store with it’s automated check-out machine when I need more tea.

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By: Heretic50 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-131040 Sat, 07 Feb 2015 20:50:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-131040 So we’re to believe that if only our “betters” in government owned drones, then we’d all be safer. Is that the idea? It sounds like the argument that if guns were only in the hands of the police and “our” military, then we’d all be so much more secure.

Well, millions and millions of innocent people who have been murdered by their own governments throughout history (many in the 20th Century alone) would disagree with the notion that being employed by a government makes a person more trustworthy and benevolent than any random person on the street. The opposite is true more often than not: power tends to corrupt, and those who are already corrupt often seek power.

Because of this, no person or group of people should ever be allowed to have a decisive monopoly on the use of force. This is the main argument against gun control, and it’s also the primary argument against “drone control.” If citizens are not allowed to have drones — and perhaps they should not — then domestic police should not be allowed to have them either, for ANY purpose. (Exceptions would undoubtedly lead to mission creep. Think of the Taser. Once intended to give police a non-lethal option with which to deal with dangerous people who would otherwise have to be shot — e.g., a madman wielding a knife — the Taser is now frequently used as a first resort against persons who could be easily controlled by lesser means. It’s also routinely used to summarily punish people for the “crime” of failing to grovel before the Blueshirts.)

With the exception of weapons that cause indiscriminate casualties — nukes, nerve gas, bioweapons, etc. — ALL weapons that are available to the government should be equally available to private citizens. The government is supposed to be the servant of the people, not the master. Since when is a servant allowed to be more powerful than his master? Yet that is the situation in which we find ourselves.

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By: Heretic50 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-130413 Sat, 07 Feb 2015 07:31:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-130413 I wish drones had never been invented, but as long as they’re available to the military and the police (two groups that are now indistinguishable in the US), they should be available to everyone else. People do not magically become more trustworthy when they accept government employment. Indeed, the opposite is typically the case.

Take a look at how many innocent people have been killed by governments (including that of the US) in the 20th Century. Consider the rampant police brutality, corruption, and unaccountability in the US today. Think about our “justice” system, which doesn’t hesitate to lock harmless people in barbaric prisons for victimless “crimes” like smoking weed, but allows holders of high public office to commit felonies without so much as a slap on the wrist (think of James Clapper’s perjury before Congress). Are you ready to trust the minions of such a tyrannical system with even MORE power over your life?

Most of my fellow Americans were very foolish and gullible to allow government to gain as much power as it already has. There needs to be a balance of power between the government and the People of this country. This is the central argument against gun control, and it is also my primary argument against drone control.

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By: tjblair http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-129706 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 17:52:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-129706 “…only 3 percent are “very likely” to buy one this year.”

Only? So 10 million Americans are likely to buy a drone this year? That seems unlikely and I suspect the poll is flawed. But, if even close to true, that’s a lot of drones flying around out there.

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By: AZreb http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-129608 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 14:26:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-129608 Heck – just station Biden on the WH lawn with one of his favorite shotguns. Problem solved.

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By: ic555 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-129516 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 11:38:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-129516 anti-drone drones could be investigated. when incoming drones are detected, rooftop drones scramble, intercept, grapple, and capture

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By: akwilco http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-128954 Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:56:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-128954 “Take several drones, and equip each with a few pounds of explosives, shrapnel and ball bearings. Then send them on a one-way kamikaze mission.”
That is effectively what the Japanese tried to do in WWII in the Pacific Northwest, sending small weather balloons with pyrotechnics to start fires.
Seems like the “drone” meme is just the latest fad to incite fear and money through name association. The article would not catch as many eyeballs if, instead of “drone” the author described the machines as “small R/C model aircraft” or “toy helicopters with cameras. By tainting by association a small quadcopter with a large military weapon, the public immediately associates a toy with death.

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By: blah77 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-128897 Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:32:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-128897 Signal jamming is effective but it’s just so passe and dull. Let’s make this a fun game instead.

Deploy mini radar-guided SAM batteries to every neighborhood or highrise roof-top in America. CIWS could also work since commercial drones generally don’t fly at that high an altitude. Anyway, these batteries are linked together via a wi-fi network and anyone with a smart device (phone, tablet, smartwatch, even laptops) can then download a Pentagon-created app to access and activate them as drones are spotted. Sorry but no Windows phone support. Of course the app would require some personal identification data to ensure that felons, children, foreign nationals (even naturalized citizens), liberals and other undesirables will be denied access. SSN, DOB, party registration, NRA membership status, employment/salary information, bank account data, health history, FBI criminal record, terrorism and no-fly watchlist, etc. Whatever the data requirement for access, just verify it against the NSA in real time since I’m sure their database is extremely accurate and up-to-date. Last but not least, successful kills would be tracked by the app and tallied up as part of a nationwide ranking system. Bonus points for collateral damage such as news choppers, debris falling on heads of pedestrians, building windows, etc. I have even thought up sothe me names for this game/app, “Battlefield: Skies Over America” or “Call of Duty: War On Drones” being two of them.

Oh and these batteries would be serviced by Lockheed, BAE, Raytheon contractors every month to ensure continued operation. See, this idea will even appease our profitability starved MI Complex too (they can’t rely on the JSF project for revenue forever)!

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By: brotherkenny4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/05/why-we-should-care-about-domestic-drones-and-how-to-bring-them-down/#comment-128747 Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:28:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=37696#comment-128747 Autonomous intelligent drones are just around the corner. Ones that fly by sight and guided by landmarks. Program in the path and they go and there is no jamming what needs no direction from external contact.

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