Comments on: How to arm Ukraine without starting World War Three http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Jingan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-288269 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:11:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-288269 arming against might of Russia? like arming Nicaragua/Cuba,Venezuela against USA…moronic premise of argument

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By: Laster http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-288146 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:01:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-288146 You can sell the “Evil Putin/Russia” spiel to the uninformed, the majority of the informed readership aren’t lost on the brutal and lethal nature of Russian policy, but to be fair this plays into the hands of those unscrupulous enough to seek some financial gain in the turmoil and suffering inflicted by short list of elite and their detestable sycophantic court.
A more compendious narative would explain the economic/trade and diplomatic opportunities squandered by a lack of long term policy that would benefit both the Russian and Western peoples at a time, and in past circumstances, when the world economy was sluggish or declining, those who had a voice in setting foreign policy succumbed to near term advantage among their respective circles of influence.

It’s what is left after all the White House and State dept. press releases that matters.
Regardless of what gets said the facts on the ground remain; The Ukranian people are suffering economic and civil strife, the Russain population have to suffer the effects of our dictating sanction policies on Russia, EU member states have to struggle (at a very critical economic juncture) with the loss of trade with Russia.

Our entire global economy is stagnant or reversing due to the pernicious effects of finance and their paramount needs. Add to this the geo-political embarrassment we’re hoping to avoid with respect to our short sighted foreign policy, and we find ourselves being entertained by some strangely flat perspectives.

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By: pyradius http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-283989 Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:45:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-283989 Dither while they die,
Putin tells a lie,
Maybe one more try

http://massovki.ru/viewtopic.php?f=12&t= 194756

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-conscripts -tell-fears-being-sent-ukraine-122703194 .html

http://www.kyivpost.com/multimedia/photo  /presidents-visit-exhibition-and-walk-f or-peace-and-freedom-381545.html

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By: michael2014 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-264471 Sun, 22 Feb 2015 04:50:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-264471 Ukraine and other Baltic countries should look to Israel as an example…Compulsory military conscription, or drafting should be introduced….Ukraine should develop and manufacture its own independent weapons industry….manufacture of rocket launchers, drones, rifles, antitank Bazookas and military weapons should start as soon as possible….or Ukraine and other Baltic countries should have a joint co-op manufacturing weapons manufacturing industry….only then will Ukraine and other Baltic countries be self reliant….?

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By: pbgd http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-262942 Sun, 22 Feb 2015 03:09:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-262942 Expecting “good faith” from a thug like Putin is absurd. All you can do is make his military adventures as costly as possible. Ironically, the Chinese are doing just that. While Putin plays his games in the West, the Chinese expand deep into Russia’s Far Eastern territories.

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By: americangrizzly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-260651 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:56:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-260651 So these NATO nations are drains on the US budget, along with UN budgets for peacekeeping. This costs damn US citizens of the with debt, and interest to pay on that debt. For generations, generations, and generations with out jobs, security, or a livable future. Printing US dollars now to float the debt, and delaying the inevitable collapse of the US. The United States is great danger, due to these costs of foreign adventurism without any national interest.

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By: americangrizzly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-260630 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:49:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-260630 *At present, NATO has 28 members. In 1949, there were 12 founding members of the Alliance: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. The other member countries are: Greece and Turkey (1952), Germany (1955), Spain (1982), the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland (1999), Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia (2004), and Albania and Croatia (2009).
The United States currently provides about 25 percent of these NATO common-funded budgets, and will continue to do so after the addition of the new members. source NATO

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By: americangrizzly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-260626 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:48:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-260626 The United States currently provides about 25 percent of these NATO common-funded budgets, and will continue to do so after the addition of the new members. source NATO
NATO countries fail to follow through on commitments to spend 2 percent of their nations’ gross domestic product on defense. Only four NATO nations meet that threshold: the U.S., Britain, Greece and Estonia.
So the other 24 Nations fail in this.
*At present, NATO has 28 members. In 1949, there were 12 founding members of the Alliance: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. The other member countries are: Greece and Turkey (1952), Germany (1955), Spain (1982), the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland (1999), Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia (2004), and Albania and Croatia (2009).

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By: americangrizzly http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-260619 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:46:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-260619 First the US superpower with its NATO/EU coalition have failed in two wars that have been going on for longer than a decade. Iraq and Afghanistan. The cost of these two forays have cost the United States. 4,487 American lives, 32,223 wounded for Iraqi Operation Freedom, Operation New Dawn another 66 deaths, and 301 wounded. 2343 deaths in Afghanistan, and wounded 17,674. The financial cost is at about $5 Trillion, plus interest borrowed on the War debt is still to be calculated, and Afghanistan isn’t over in lives and cost. With a debt in the US approaching $18 Trillion.

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By: Discovery451 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/02/18/how-to-arm-ukraine-without-starting-world-war-three/#comment-247034 Sat, 21 Feb 2015 02:32:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=38059#comment-247034 Putin will be driving along his new, former Ukrainian coast before the end of 2016. Surprise, you’re land locked.

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