Comments on: Slowing economy won’t alter Xi’s ‘China Dream’ http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: blah77 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-927963 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:51:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-927963 Corruption, freedom, pollution, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. The same negative talking points that have been blathered about 1000 times with regards to China.

China is in the midst of a transition and its leadership is addressing many of these issues, for self-preservation if nothing else. It is going to take time, perhaps not fast enough for Western tastes. However that’s precisely the one thing many Western talking heads can’t seem to wrap their wagging tongues around. Since when is China obligated to do the bidding of the West? Why shouldn’t China move at is own pace as opposed to being beholden to Western interests? China as a civilization has a written history going back nearly 5000 years, I think they’ve earned the right to do things on their own terms without being overly concerned with “Western expectations”.

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By: Cassiopian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-894144 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:58:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-894144 I am not sure where Baglanboy has been but on journalistic freedom, Reporters without Borders rates China in 176th place. But hey, they beat out Somalia. On corruption, Transparency International puts China in 100th place, meaning there are 99 countries less corrupt than China. On pollution, one international index rates them as the 10th most polluted country in the world.
So please, spare us the hyperbole.

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By: UauS http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-891686 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:44:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-891686 To: baglanboy
“The only source of knowledge is experience.” – Albert Einstein

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By: baglanboy http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-891307 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:59:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-891307 Cassiopinan labours under the common misapprehension that the Western (our) system is superior to that of China by noting that their model steals land from the poor, poisons air and water and is afflicted by “massive corruption”.

In what way is Our System better? China has executed bankers and politicians guilty of fraud whilst we reward them. The fracking, logging, de-forestisation and umpteen equally horrible polluting industries hardly put us on a pedestal from which to sneer at the Chinese.

This leaves us with the question of radio content and , I suppose, by extension papers, TV and the internet which are censored over there. Over here – we are a paragon of journalistic purity and ethical usage of both the spoken and written word. Such a claim would never have been factual and at present, with wholesale wire taps, political feed being swallowed verbatim by the MSM and neo conservatism continually winding the spring, attempting to guide the revisionist Chinese seems like pure and delusional messianic hypocrisy.

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By: UauS http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-887063 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 04:28:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-887063 Didn’t the USSR send the first man into Space?..
Once and again, all over-centralized systems are doomed.

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By: Neurochuck http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-879164 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:48:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-879164 In a lot of nations the ethnic Chinese minority which may go back many generations seem to do better than the national average for income, education, political position, etc. This seems based on cultural factors oriented on economic success for the family, hard work, education for the children, professional self-pride and prestige, and acceptance in the broad community etc.
This seems the case in Australia, Indonesia, and I think the USA. So they make a positive contribution to the economy and society of the nation. Many migrated after the revolution with KMT sympathies, and so not dependent on links to the PRC.
The “Chinese Dream” seems correlated with this culture, and is not obviously a reason for paranoia.
Maybe of envy.

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By: Cassiopian http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/04/16/dont-look-for-slowing-growth-to-push-china-toward-the-west/#comment-878174 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 13:19:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=39577#comment-878174 Li and Friedman might wax euphoric over China’s growth and political model but the cost has been extraordinary – land grabbing from the poor, poisoning of the air and water, massive corruption, and the jailing of the opposition. What good are wireless networks, that Friedman crows about, when the content is censored by the Great Firewall of China? And the Party elite sends their kids to the U.S. for education – which says a lot.

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