Comments on: Why the 2016 GOP race may be all about taking down unions http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: TomPiper http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1040983 Wed, 13 May 2015 00:59:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1040983 Before I started my own corporation 36 years ago I was management so I’ve never belonged to a union. None of my employees belong to a union nor would I want them to.

However, unions or something similar are definitely needed to protect workers. Germany seems to have the best model with unions and management working together, which is mandated under their constitution.

Maybe VW, Mercedes and BMW can lead the way in the U.S. for an equitable system for both sides, management and labor.

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By: KevinHals http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1040962 Tue, 12 May 2015 19:07:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1040962 We want Unions out of government and out of our lives. They cannot “save the middle class” because they are self-serving, constitution-hating organized crime operatives. There you go making assumtions about people and subjects you know little about. With 5 trillion in assets, you would think the “unions” would have “saved the middle class” by now. Trumka alone makes 250K a year that he claims and still goes on about the “rich corporations”. What a scam. What a wasted last 8 years.

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By: Alitoo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1039090 Fri, 08 May 2015 20:12:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1039090 Meanwhile, the union and Democratic leadership have sold and are selling out AMERICAN workers by supporting amnesty for illegal aliens and even increased legal immigration. The President’s EO from November would give work permits to FIVE MILLION illegal aliens. The administration has already given them to half a million “children” up to age 30 under DACA. Unions operate by limiting employers’ access to non union workers. Well, that’s the way our immigration laws are supposed to work–to limit access to the American labor market by foreigners so that wages can rise and Americans can work.

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By: operaghost http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1038869 Fri, 08 May 2015 17:43:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1038869 Unions, did in fact serve a purpose. They have been around since the 1870s, some would argue since before then. The Knights of Labor, for example.
After immigration to the USA was pretty much shut off in 1924 (largely due to Henry Ford-who ironically contributed to the rise of the union he so feared) the US labor force became highly unionized. There is a time, and a place. Today, depending on which estimate you use, the US labor force is 11 percent unionized – and those are comprised in vast part of govt and teachers union members. It is also, and has been for over 100 years, a political organization. What the author states is clearly wrong, and has been shown to be wrong for 100 years as well.
The Unions demise was due its poor quality of work and its unreasonable demand. Lockouts do not lift all boats, perhaps if the Union would restrict its activities to negotiating with corportations, and not spending loads of union (and non-union) taxpayer money, I would be able to support them.
Unions have made themselves irrelevant over the past 40 years, and have nobody to blame but themselves.
The only possible use I can see for a Union today, is perhaps in supporting internet workers, such as Taskrabbit, Uber, etc., to be declared employees not contractors.
The authors basic sense of history and economic knowledge is sub par.
He is a union schill and lobbyist – just like those he despised.
The king is dead. Long live the king.

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By: timhaering http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1038110 Thu, 07 May 2015 12:17:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1038110 “The labor movement got the Mafia curse.” – Frank Zappa, from “Stick Together.” Are you saying unions will stop seeking more money for less work? That’s what the old union meant to me. That would take a John Galt rising from the union ranks. How likely is that, considering the voting booth is the only place a unionite is totally safe from the central union scrutinizer?

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1037575 Wed, 06 May 2015 19:58:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1037575 BBERDUDE, public sector unions may or may not be necessary. But they have little to do with the sky-rocketing costs of healthcare and education. Healthcare costs are because we have a broken private healthcare/insurance/drug-marketing racket going on. The only developed nation to have such a thing. Education costs are related to building binges on American campuses, and bloated numbers of college administrators (mostly non-union).

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By: BBERDUDE http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1037561 Wed, 06 May 2015 19:50:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1037561 Public Sector unions are a blight on this country and responsible for the horrible cost inflation of healthcare, education, and the operations of government itself. They are a blatant conflict of the public-interest and should be banned forever.

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By: AlkalineState http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1037233 Wed, 06 May 2015 15:56:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1037233 GOP favors big business over small business; international economies over American.

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By: UberCon http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1037232 Wed, 06 May 2015 15:27:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1037232 There was never, is not now, and will never be any good purpose served by labor unions. Not one. Not ever. Private sector unions are dying off, rightly so, becoming fast extinct, and good riddance. Public sector unions, forty years behind the extinction curve, are parasites of the worst kind, draining the lifeblood, killing their host. What were once honorable professions of teaching, policing and firefighting have been reduced to union cattle, bringing out the very worst in the human nature of these people. The remaining countless legions of faceless government unionized workers are an unthinkable, unproductive abomination.

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By: brotherkenny4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/why-the-gop-2016-race-may-be-all-about-taking-down-unions/#comment-1037228 Wed, 06 May 2015 14:09:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=40187#comment-1037228 All wealth comes from labor. There is no other way for real value and real things to be made. It is true that our specific labor methods or labor categories have changed with human modernization, yet, someone has to do the work. Unions have changed too. They have been strongly influenced internally by right wing ideologues in the rank and file, and they spend way too much time protecting workers who truly should be dismissed because of bad behavior (in this respect they act like lawyers in that they defend all, even the guilty). However, the main issue with unions these days is the brainwashed nature of the typical American who is easily persuaded that they deserve nothing. They believe in the guilt trip that religions and ideologies lay on them. They think they are unworthy or that other people are unworthy because of their sins or their deviances. They also think that they are at risk and must have strong leaders who will protect them. This is of course all nonsense. They actually need no politician and in fact would be better off without the contrivances of our fake leaders in all ideological camps. So, because the American people are controlled by mythology and feel guilty for being alive, the wealthy will continue to get wealthy and the people will bow their heads in shame of being alive and having felt moments of joy. Joy they feel they have no right to.

Good job there brainwash media outlets. Mission accomplished.

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