Comments on: Why China is far from ready to meet the U.S. on a global battlefront http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: axioum125 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1095849 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:50:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1095849 Presumably you call yourself an analyst and write grand articles about geopolitics. But you can’t even get your facts straight right at the beginning.
” . . . the planet’s wealthiest and . . .”
Since when is someone who owe lots of money to others the wealthiest? The largest economy, maybe. But the richest? Not even on a GDP per capita basis. Look up the CIA, IMF or World Bank reports, if you know how to do basic research.

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By: Jason Fields http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1070098 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:03:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1070098 Commenting has been removed from news articles, though not for opinion columns. We encourage our readers to engage with us on our Facebook page and on Twitter at @reuters.

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By: gentalman http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1070028 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:55:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1070028 No country will fight one on one alone.It will be always goup fighting and in that respect US far more effective.

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By: No_apartheid http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1069437 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:48:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1069437 Wow, reuters did not publish my comment again.

Goes to show you cannot comment on anything that goes against the governments line right here in the good old US of A, the beacon of freedom……………

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By: markhahn http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1068871 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:09:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1068871 China’s island-building in the south-china sea is an outright invasion: these locations are much closer to multiple other countries. Calling these areas “disputed” is an absurdity – there’s no reason to present China’s claim as plausible.

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By: Laster http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1068779 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 03:27:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1068779 @Calfri I don’t know why that is either.

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By: Calfri http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1068367 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:56:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1068367 @Laster

Sorry, Laster, I just don’t buy your economic reductionist way of looking at the world. Obviously corporate influence is important and economics is important, but that doesn’t mean freedom and democracy don’t mean anything, or that they only mean what each individual wants them to mean. In my own experience with people on the left — I assume that’s what you are — they are among the first ones who’d object to elections being canceled where they live, yet somehow they think democracy and freedom are unimportant or even meaningless for people who live in distant places. I wonder why that is.

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By: blah77 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1067777 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:06:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1067777 Calfri is obviously operating under the tired “west is best” assumption. Who said China and its people are even remotely interested in embracing a western system of government? Do they have any obligation to do so?

That type of ‘everyone should be like us’ thinking is the main fallacy behind the US zealotry of exporting democracy and why such efforts have ended in miserable failure more often than not. It is an inherently arrogant, misguided and hypocritical ideology, perpetuated by a global hegemon that is hellbent on maintaining its continued domination. No, the US isn’t even close to being the best in everything, least of all our form of dysfunctional government.

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By: CALARISTOS http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1067733 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:45:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1067733 China has no aptitude or interest in sea-borne power politics. There is nothing to gain. It does have an interest in Siberia, a depopulated region China claims as its historic territory seized by Russia in the 18th Century. Keep your eye on the Russia-China conflict latent now but eventually to emerge probably by 2050. All resources China requires (water, cropland, minerals, wood products, oil, gas, etc.) are abundantly available in their backyard Siberia. No other area has as much, and as a land based power China can take Siberia by stealth or force if necessary.

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By: BadChicken http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/21/why-china-is-far-from-ready-to-meet-the-u-s-on-a-global-battlefront/#comment-1067566 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:50:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41401#comment-1067566 I am forever amazed at the amount of tinfoil conspiracy people that haunt the web and the “Death to America” types that are convinced that the United States is out to oppress the world. Ever is the need to blame someone instead of some self introspection.

Some of the United States’ actions are good intentions and not well thought out at times. Someone of this is spurred by some world empowered civic need to help others. Usually buried by the aftermath of conflict was someone asking “We need to help them” or “Can you help us?”
Yes, some of that is also resource related but you’ll note the United States is getting tired of the middle east headache and attempting to switch to internal oil resources. The Saudis saw that and dropped the oil prices; it’s a gamble they will win on the short term and will loose in the long run–I’m sure they know it too.
The United States has no interest in invading Russia but you can’t convince a Russia public that and the Russia leadership likes their positions of power. So we are stuck and they know it. We can’t just leave the Ukraine to Russia because it isn’t right. Sounds like a double standard because we have influence on our neighbors (all countries have the same effects on weaker neighbors in one way or the other) and yes we have imposed our will on others like Russia is doing in the Ukraine. “Well they did it too” is an excuse. Just like saying “Well they robbed a bank before so why can’t we?” Try using that in a court of law.

As for China? I’ve read California and US history. “Wow, we were total jerks” is what comes to mind in the 19th century and around the turn of the century. We were less so in years leading up to world war 2. A public outcry of empathy towards the Chinese really rose up during that time and we helped; there was even an attempt work with the communist Chinese but we didn’t and I’m glad; The communist Chinese weren’t exactly kind to their own people.

As an outside observer, as bad as I feel about how we treated the Chinese a hundred years ago. I see a country who, nearly out of the blue, do to Vietnam and the Philippines say “Nope that’s ours and we’re taking it.”

Historic claims are an excuse if you haven’t really cared about it for the past several hundred years. This is about who is claiming it now and talking about it and working through it without bullying through it. I seriously doubt the Philippines has the ability to drill for oil; at best its about fishing rights. As for the Vietnamese, it seems to be pride and resources although not exactly seeing them drilling for oil any time soon even if they could.

I know personally, I could care less about the rise of China as a power; good for them just as long as you don’t do it through bullying others and stealing. Again just because someone else did it in the past doesn’t make it ok for you to do it now.

Resources can be shared and pride can be swallowed. Agreements can be made and kept. Nobody is going to walk away totally happy but it can be done. Needs to be done.

So what do we all do? How do we get Japan, China, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines to sit down and hammer out a rock solid agreement on sea territories and stick too it. “Keep you nose out of our business” isn’t going to happen. So…how?

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