Comments on: Why the South Carolina shooting suspect should not be called a terrorist http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: pyradius http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1073051 Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:28:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1073051 “Punishment doesn’t get any harsher than that, so calling Roof a terrorist would serve no clear pragmatic legal purpose.”

I do get a bit confused on this point, but I am under the impression that a Federal “Hate Crime” carries a max of life, so how can the state push for the death penalty if a federal hate crime charge carries a max life sentence? (I personally am for Life Without Parole although I recognize that comparable terrorists have received death).

Additionally, given the fact that there is no such thing as a ‘lone wolf’, I have no problem with additional scrutiny being used on psychotic “White” power groups and ‘segregationist’ groups that empowered the Dylan Roofs of the world.

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By: uc8tcme http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1071659 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:08:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1071659 He is not a terrorist, he did not invoke terror. He invoked sorrow in the families and the community – so that makes him a sorry SOB.

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By: blah77 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1069401 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 18:10:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1069401 Hate groups such as KKK, Aryan nation and similar organizations are very much terror groups, and have been referred to as such by the FBI numerous times. As such, anyone affiliated with those groups and commits an act of mass violence should be (and correctly) classified as a terrorist.

The main difference between those those above groups and the likes of IS and Al Qaeda are their founding ideologies. IS was founded upon sectarian/religious beliefs. Al Qaeda was pseudo-religious but more concerned with geopolitics. KKK and Aryan Nation are of course concerned with the color of one’s skin. Regardless, all of these ideals are superficial in nature. Once society finally accepts that our domestic terrorists are as dangerous as foreign born ones, maybe our government will finally acquire enough courage to fight them with just as much zeal.

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By: Solidar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1069248 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:32:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1069248 Killed a targeted politician and civilians to “start a race war.”

Those were his own words and actions. There was no political ideology or terror behind that? Do you need him to draw a picture? This article is some lame terror-apology.

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By: PatMorris http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1068351 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:34:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1068351 A thoughtful essay tackling a difficult topic. But Gessen’s point deserves to be broadened. ‘Terrorism’ is just one of a handful of terms – ‘human trafficking’, ‘rights violation’, ‘sexual abuse’ – that are exploited opportunistically and highly selectively by states and NGOs to uptick state power and surveillance in totalizing ways. Real power in the US operates behind such terms, in service to hyper-financial elites and deep-state actors. But for the hoi polloi, these terms, once applied to a situation, stop all thinking, analysis, and distinction-making. The limitless expansion of state powers proceeds in ways that both the right and left appear powerless to critique. These terms operate by making human actors – such as those undertaking migration, often for good reason, or women who choose to work in sex trades – empty, will-less puppets who can totally be spoken-for by their supposed advocates & protectors. We’d have better policy for the underlying injustices these radioactive terms sloppily reference if we didn’t use these phrases and had actually to describe the situations in thick detail. But ‘better policy’ is hardly the end that, esp. the US’s governing elites, have in mind. Instead, like firemen moonlighting as arsonists, they want to foment a steady stream of crises as distraction and justification for a democracy-destroying perpetual ‘state of emeregncy’.

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By: SUMTIMES http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1068349 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:53:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1068349 Yes. Terrorist. I am very surprised that so many other people believe so.

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By: BadMammaJamma http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1067992 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:08:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1067992 The definition of terrorism is to inflict a state of terror. Roof’s deliberate goal of taking lives fits that definition. It matters not the race, religion, national identity, or politics of the intended victims, the fact remains nine innocent people died because of a premeditated act of violence. We need to stop making up excuses protecting murderers under the guise of freedoms in the Bill of Rights which were never intended as legal justification for sheer malice. We need to enforce our laws on the books to make the legal system work, and scrap the ones that don’t work.

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By: Solidar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1067964 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:23:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1067964 If he had a long beard and a turban, and this had been a vest with explosives in a baptist church….. killing 9 people…. would you call him a mentally ill lone wolf? Or would you call him a terrorist?

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By: Solidar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1067957 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:20:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1067957 You don’t have to be a member of an organization to be a terrorist. Nowhere does the federal law mention organization.

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By: Fred013 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/23/why-the-south-carolina-shooting-suspect-should-not-be-called-a-terrorist/#comment-1067876 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:02:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=41431#comment-1067876 A little roll playing..substitute a Middle Eastern man in place of Roof. Now, according to your rationale he would most certainly be called a terrorist..This is a blatantly racist article, and a veiled attempt to justify your twisted views.

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