Comments on: Forgotten flaw in Iran nuclear deal: It lets killers go free http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: DeeToo http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1093207 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 19:52:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1093207 Iran actually has more reason not to trust us.

Some of the comments here mention the weapons and gas given to Iraq by the USA so they could fight as a proxy for us. We then turned on Iraq – so are we to be trusted? We invaded a country that had done nothing to us – Iraq – destroying its government and civil way of life, killing hundreds of thousands. We also forget the shooting down of an Iranian civilian jet, the arming of Usama Bin Laden, and of course the coup we fostered in Iran – replacing a democratically elected government in Iran with our puppet, the Shah.

This article was written by the son of a man who wanted to repeat after WWII the mistakes of the Treaty of Versailles to gain vengeance. A wise man wisely recognized that peace can be obtained only through open dialog and developing common goals. Fortunately for us and Europe, Marshall’s plan was implemented instead of Morgathau’s.

This article is the usual fear-mongering that keeps mankind from making progress. If we followed the writer’s logic, we never would have made agreements/treaties with the USSR, the Chinese, the Vietnamese…… something Ronald Reagan embraced…..

We cannot support the hard right in Israel’s position at the expense of our own interests.

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By: No_apartheid http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1093106 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:47:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1093106 Going by Mr. Morgenthau’s argument, the apartheid state of Israel should be sanctioned for the type of government they have (same as South Africa use to be) and their treatment of the Palestinians.

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By: fyaox http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092911 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:32:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092911 The author is a ghost writer for Netanyahu, with another strategic ‘weighted’ barb aimed at derailing the peace accord. Like many silks and establishment figures on the conservative side of Western politics, they are intent on exposing tedious flaws on an individual basis, without visualising the broader picture. The people of Iran want to move forward to a peaceful, prosperous future engaging with the modern, market driven and very democratic model the West is showcasing. The ageing Ayatollahs’ antiquated, dusty and 5th Century-relevant texts are questioned in a majority under 30s and progressive populous. Should 20 to 30 year old proud Iranian people be held to account for deals struck between ageing clerics and ruthless opportunists, in the deserts of the past. Give peace a chance.

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By: JimVan http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092898 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:49:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092898 Existing sanctions against Iran are in connection with nuclear proliferation only. The lawyer’s logic here could be used to impose the same sanctions against other countries, including the US and Israel, and I’m sure there are others, for their matter-of-record extrajudicial proceedings. To demand strict compliance with international law, without exception, a nation must first have clean hands.

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By: angryprole http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092563 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:51:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092563 Sounds like the US are giving Iran enough rope to hang themselves. Pretty clever really.

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By: Cleveland2012 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092517 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:39:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092517 While I respect Mr. Morgenthau for his service to America, I disagree with his conclusions. The US should allow Iran to join the ranks of modern, peaceful, and prosperous countries.

We have to be careful when using this label “terrorist” because what the US has done, specifically in killing one of Iran’s democratically elected leaders, could also be considered terrorism.

President Obama has gotten this one right. The US should not bow to outside interests such as Israel who want perpetual war. Gradual modernization is our hope for creating a stable and peaceful Iran.

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By: JeanPeregrine http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092509 Tue, 04 Aug 2015 03:13:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092509 Bob Morgenthau’s father was Henry Morgenthau, who was FDR’s Treasury Secretary, and as such a major figure if not indeed the major figure in the conception, direction, and implementation of the New Deal – and as of the late 1930s he directed and oversaw the US funding of WW2. Most historians’ accounts conclude that Henry Morgenthau was despite his power, influence, and close relationship with FDR ineffective in raising the question of Jewish refugees from Hitler until very, very late in the war, and was unable even then to persuade FDR to direct any action to, for example, bomb the rail lines that were carrying Jews (and others) to the death camps. When the war was won, Henry Morgenthau argued that Germany must be de-industrialized and reduced to a purely agrarian state.

How one chooses to interpret these historic facts and their possible influence and effect on Bob Morgenthau’s essay is at the reader’s discretion, but they are all readily verifiable.

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By: Jane.Doe http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092504 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:22:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092504 Also, does nothing to get the American prisoners held captive back…

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By: jantsch http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092500 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:52:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092500 Read the article and the six comments so far. All reminds me of a friendly bit of country-club banter. I can’t help but feel that there’s an underlying motive in Mr. Morgenthau’s discourse, however. One issue that appears to get mentioned more than others is the moral obligation for Iran to pay judgments awarded by American courts. Did Mr. Morgenthau perhaps argue any of those cases? Just wondering.

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By: Looter http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/forgotten-flaw-in-iran-nuclear-deal-it-lets-killers-go-free/#comment-1092494 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 20:24:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=42468#comment-1092494 I thought from his experience Robert Morgenthau should shed some serious light on the matter. All I read in this is some sort of Jewish ramblings. Here is something even an experienced man like Robert Morgenthau should consider… if we are trying to protect our allies in the middle east… we better try to contain Iran. Because Iran as such is a nuclear nation. Most of the big cities of our allies are well within the reach of Iranian missiles and Iran doesn’t need a full nuclear capability to bring massive destruction upon those cities. All they need is a dirty bomb and they already have enough material to make one in matter of hours. If we are going to rid the world of nuclear weapons then there are a lot more others we need to include in the talks, like Israel. I don’t think that is the intention. So we better see Iran as a nuclear nation and deal with them.

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