Comments on: Primaries are what keep the GOP out of the White House http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: NovemberGold http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1115880 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 03:51:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1115880 Completely stupid and inaccurate analysis. It used history to draw the exact wrong conclusion.

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By: OxymorontoMoron http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114414 Sat, 31 Oct 2015 04:45:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114414 I think the difference we’re looking for, is that democratic party bosses still exert control over the behavior of the party, even if not on all of the party candidates/electorate.

However, roughly 20 years ago, the nascent right-wing news’ “talking heads” burst onto the scene and steadily amassed talking points/air time (and by extension, were able to control the party’s talking points and what topics were relevant to the party platform). This wouldn’t be an issue per se, if those talking points were either aligned with the average republican (populist) or the party bosses (establishment), but they’re not close to either.

Rather, right wing media serve a similar function to what you see with the old Billy Mays’ commercials during a documentary on a major news channel- you’re in the thick of discussion on how XYZ is affecting the crime rates in major cities and then… BAM!! “HI I’M BILLY MAYS HERE TO TALK ABOUT OXYCLEAN…” and suddenly, your attention is away from the documentary and the topic in your mind is whether to buy the oxyclean or not, rather than whether there is relevance of the crime segment on your life.

Ultimately, the Republican constituency is going to see the snake (right wing pundits) eat the elephant (establishment), or see the elephant squash the snake. I have no idea which we’ll see and have no sympathy for this pox they have brought upon themselves sensationalizing things like the war on Christmas, Reaganism, etc etc etc.
Best,
-D

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By: kohler http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114200 Fri, 30 Oct 2015 00:42:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114200 From 1992- 2012
13 states (with 102 electoral votes) voted Republican every time
19 states (with 242) voted Democratic every time

If this pattern continues, and the National Popular Vote bill does not go into effect,
Democrats only would need a mere 28 electoral votes from other states.
If Republicans lose Florida (29), they would lose.

Population shifts have converted states that were once solidly Republican into closely divided “battleground” states.

There do not appear to be any Democratic states making the transition to voting Republican in presidential races.

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By: Solidar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114150 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:28:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114150 Brotherkenny4, I’m with you on that. America has some of the dumbest voters in the world. Half the country thinks global warming warming is some kind of UN conspiracy. But have no problem with the idea that Noah lured polar bears into Syria for his arc. There are tens of millions of people in America believing this stuff literally happened.

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By: JackJC http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114121 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:44:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114121 Umm…sorry by George H. W. Bush was not reelected. He was defeated by Bill Clinton. More sloppy journalism.

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By: brotherkenny4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114098 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114098 fedupaj: That is a bit nonsensical. Defending their record is easy. It is only the paranoid of the right who see Benghazi and e-mails as major issues because the right wing media machine has rolled out what they should be outraged about. But, rationally one can see that these are minor/created issues not of substance.

Solidar: Democrats may on average be more intelligent, much like a toad is likely of higher intelligence than a snail. It’s nothing to brag about and anyway they are almost as likely to be making decisions based on the simplistic arguments of some media dolt as the GOPers are.

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By: fedupaj http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114074 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:24:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114074 The main reason dumocrats do better in debates is because the candidates never are asked to defend their records and the moderators questions lead them right into subjects they would like to discuss. In other words the democratic candidates are “in bed” with the media.

On the other hand last nights media political assassination attempt on the GOP candidates was one the most biased performances I have ever seen by the totally incompetent MSNBC moderators.

As far as the intellect of Republicans I can only say they were not stupid enough to elect an incompetent phony like Obama or have a lying crooked candidate like Hillary leading their ticket.

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By: Solidar http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114036 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:15:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114036 @Sewblon: Yes, the Democratic electorate is more educated on the whole. A little less paranoid and less reliant on AM radio for information. Here’s a recent study:

http://www.businessinsider.com/proof-rep ublicans-really-are-dumber-than-democrat s-2012-5

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By: brotherkenny4 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114028 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:57:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114028 Here in lies the problem with aligning ones party with segments of the population who lack rational thought and instead view the world in a mystical way. Fundamentalists religions do not represent the majority of people but are a very important component of the GOP. The southern democrats are another minority who are key to the GOP, but who espouse a minority view (that view being that fiefdoms are a good thing).

Sewblon: the democratic constituents are easily cowed. They are all TV addicts who see Oprah and others as the true leaders.

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By: Sewblon http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/10/28/primaries-are-what-keep-the-gop-out-of-the-white-house/#comment-1114024 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:37:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44410#comment-1114024 So why do primaries work better for the Democrats than for the Republicans? Are democratic primary voters more politically astute or just more representative of the general electorate?

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