Comments on: What the Paris attacks and the fall of Rome have in common: Nothing http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/ Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:57:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: timb117 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1121366 Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:16:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1121366 “Let us also not forget that many present day Europeans are descendants of the Goths and other Germanic Barbarians like them, eg, Franks, Vandals, Lombards, etc.”

And, while we’re not forgetting, let’s not forget, Niall Ferguson finds the descendants of those people to be the rightful colonial rulers of the world

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By: timb117 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1121364 Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:13:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1121364 Love the comment fm the guy who put refugees in quotation marks!

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By: timb117 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1121363 Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:12:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1121363 Sounds to me like Ferguson should have used Adrianople if his point was about refugees. It would still be a stupid point, but there might be a vestige of a comparison

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By: AhmedIqbal http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119806 Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:44:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119806 Those self same Goths were refugees from the terrorist Huns whom they eventually helped the Romans to defeat.
Let us also not forget that many present day Europeans are descendants of the Goths and other Germanic Barbarians like them, eg, Franks, Vandals, Lombards, etc.

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By: BGDavis http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119761 Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:20:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119761 The article is correct and some of the anti-immigrant posts are seriously twisted. The article compares specific events, the twisted posts extrapolate wildly. So much for critical thinking skills.
(Disclosure: I believe that mass immigration from an alien culture with alien values is a recipe for long-term decline, if not outright cultural suicide.)

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By: PriyankarK http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119689 Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:25:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119689 Well said Mr. Duncan! As a long-time listener to the History of Rome podcast, I will highlight that Syrian Refugees have NO SIMILARITY to the Goths of Fritigern’s or Alaric’s. They aren’t led by a king, they were settled in a whole province as soldiers-which most people get wrong-so get that. Please get the facts right those who make Sack-of-Rome style comments. What happened in 410 was far worse than what happened in Paris. And anyway, Niall Ferguson is best at modern history, he isn’t an ancient historian.

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By: merabharat http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119530 Mon, 23 Nov 2015 01:36:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119530 It sounds more like a collective suicide by Islamists, unable to cope with modernity and trying to bring down the Ummah with them.

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By: GAntrobus http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119442 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 19:46:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119442 @kuronekowa:

“[tens of thousands of Syrian refugee] doesn’t sound like a potential army to you?”

No, absolutely not! If ANY of those refugees are mentally prepared for violence against countries that offer them safety, their total is almost certainly a small fraction of one percent — nothing like an “army”.

Tragically, modern history has had many, many occasions on which enormous tides of terrorized or displaced people sought refuge away from their homes. From all of these many examples, I am aware of no instance in which refugees became an “army” against their protectors.

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By: dmagady http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119374 Sat, 21 Nov 2015 15:03:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119374 No, that doesn’t sound anything like an army. Army does not equal lot of people of varying ages and health fleeing something.

And there wasn’t a revolt. But why let facts get in the way of analogy, right?

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By: Benny27 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/11/20/what-the-paris-attacks-and-the-fall-of-rome-have-in-common-nothing/#comment-1119241 Fri, 20 Nov 2015 23:30:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/?p=44966#comment-1119241 The analogy is calculated by the propagandist Ferguson.

For the obtuse: the Goths came armed. The Syrians have phones and children.

I have never heard or read of a more cowardly representation that that of Niall and his dumb followers. Shame on you all.

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