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		<title>By: lphock</title>
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		<dc:creator>lphock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is difficult to understand American - calling any one who are improving their lots &quot;enemies&quot; and &quot;threats&quot;. No one can invade China, India, Japan without a all-out war being sanctioned.
The Chinese naval base is in Hainan island; that&#039;s about it! The containment of Chinese trade routes and fishery is a concern for their growing population that has real needs. The next real threat globally is social, political and cultural difference between mainstream European, North American and North-East Asian. I don&#039;t think India will be a superpower but a niche player to contain China through engagement with Pakistan. The Middle-Eastern countries - including Pakistan, also including the prevalent influence of Islam, will continue to be a balancing act for North-East Asian.
I believe the Japanese, in spite of demographic balance, has a lot to offer to North East Asians. They are more thorough in population propaganda and culturally more embedded than other emerging countries. Hence, a strong ballast will tide the nation over difficult times.
I thought I saw something in Obama and his vision delivery but somewhat disapointed with American&#039;s idea of quick-fix. Americans are veryyy democratic and this social and cultural base is good for the world to follow. However, for the US to police global compliance is a different story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is difficult to understand American &#8211; calling any one who are improving their lots &#8220;enemies&#8221; and &#8220;threats&#8221;. No one can invade China, India, Japan without a all-out war being sanctioned.<br />
The Chinese naval base is in Hainan island; that&#8217;s about it! The containment of Chinese trade routes and fishery is a concern for their growing population that has real needs. The next real threat globally is social, political and cultural difference between mainstream European, North American and North-East Asian. I don&#8217;t think India will be a superpower but a niche player to contain China through engagement with Pakistan. The Middle-Eastern countries &#8211; including Pakistan, also including the prevalent influence of Islam, will continue to be a balancing act for North-East Asian.<br />
I believe the Japanese, in spite of demographic balance, has a lot to offer to North East Asians. They are more thorough in population propaganda and culturally more embedded than other emerging countries. Hence, a strong ballast will tide the nation over difficult times.<br />
I thought I saw something in Obama and his vision delivery but somewhat disapointed with American&#8217;s idea of quick-fix. Americans are veryyy democratic and this social and cultural base is good for the world to follow. However, for the US to police global compliance is a different story</p>
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		<title>By: IrishGiggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrishGiggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should not! And America should watch them carefully as they are soon to sneak in &amp; do trade big time with Iran (both oil &amp; nuclear) since Russia undone most deals there because of the Subsidies. So, once they&#039;re in there, they&#039;ll be part of a double edged sword to deal with. 

Chinese government I am talking about, &amp; not the Chinese people, in case I cause offence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should not! And America should watch them carefully as they are soon to sneak in &#038; do trade big time with Iran (both oil &#038; nuclear) since Russia undone most deals there because of the Subsidies. So, once they&#8217;re in there, they&#8217;ll be part of a double edged sword to deal with. </p>
<p>Chinese government I am talking about, &#038; not the Chinese people, in case I cause offence.</p>
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		<title>By: Onghony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onghony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few comments were reasonable, coming from mature, intelligent persons. Sadly, most comments were racist, and belligerent. Most felt that the US Government had God&#039;s given right to bully the Chinese, and, for that matter, the rest of the non-Caucasian world. Talking about the sale of rare earths, China does not have a monopoly. The USA, Australia, Canada, Russia and other countries have ample supplies in their soil but choose not to exploit these yet, instead to store for future use and also make &quot;killings&quot; in sale when supplies in China have run out. The Chinese too must have reason not to over exploit their supplies but retain these for future use. Remember that USA created wars in the Middle-east and South America so as to exploit the petroleum resources there while retaining its petroleum in the ground. I could go and on on these topics, but you get my drift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few comments were reasonable, coming from mature, intelligent persons. Sadly, most comments were racist, and belligerent. Most felt that the US Government had God&#8217;s given right to bully the Chinese, and, for that matter, the rest of the non-Caucasian world. Talking about the sale of rare earths, China does not have a monopoly. The USA, Australia, Canada, Russia and other countries have ample supplies in their soil but choose not to exploit these yet, instead to store for future use and also make &#8220;killings&#8221; in sale when supplies in China have run out. The Chinese too must have reason not to over exploit their supplies but retain these for future use. Remember that USA created wars in the Middle-east and South America so as to exploit the petroleum resources there while retaining its petroleum in the ground. I could go and on on these topics, but you get my drift.</p>
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		<title>By: mgunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@redford - quit pretending to care (about tibetans, cultural revolution victims, etc.) or at least pretend to care about our own atrocities.

Funny how bad things others do seem like yesterday (cultural revolution 30+ years ago, takeover tibet 60 years ago, etc) yet our involvement in Vietnam where millions died is ancient history.  The invasion of Iraq is ancient history too.  And even the Dalai Lama calls the chinese genocide a &quot;cultural&quot; genocide, not like the real genocide we committed on Native Americans who still live in squalor in reservations to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@redford &#8211; quit pretending to care (about tibetans, cultural revolution victims, etc.) or at least pretend to care about our own atrocities.</p>
<p>Funny how bad things others do seem like yesterday (cultural revolution 30+ years ago, takeover tibet 60 years ago, etc) yet our involvement in Vietnam where millions died is ancient history.  The invasion of Iraq is ancient history too.  And even the Dalai Lama calls the chinese genocide a &#8220;cultural&#8221; genocide, not like the real genocide we committed on Native Americans who still live in squalor in reservations to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo33</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philo33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China being the whipping boy has been the natural consequence of the U.S. ethnocentric attitude, and sometime outright racism. We consider what we are not familiar with to be natural evil, and with that we find consensus among ourselves, especially among the more homogeneous groups. We ignore the fact the trade was done with both parties pursuing what they perceived to be their best interests; and often those perceived interests don’t turn out to be what they expect. On the U.S. side, we abhor the loss of jobs, and on the Chinese side, they lament the pollutions incurred around them due to this trade. 

What’s disturbing is, in the weeks leading up to the midterm elections, that some of campaign ads, from both political parties, took a whip at China, in order to discredit the other party. They sure find an audience in the largely homogeneous and often racist groups, but put on the international stage, people wound find them distasteful. And in terms of soft power, or the long-term political influence and persuasiveness of the U.S., these undeserved whippings undermine it, something that we wouldn’t realize at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China being the whipping boy has been the natural consequence of the U.S. ethnocentric attitude, and sometime outright racism. We consider what we are not familiar with to be natural evil, and with that we find consensus among ourselves, especially among the more homogeneous groups. We ignore the fact the trade was done with both parties pursuing what they perceived to be their best interests; and often those perceived interests don’t turn out to be what they expect. On the U.S. side, we abhor the loss of jobs, and on the Chinese side, they lament the pollutions incurred around them due to this trade. </p>
<p>What’s disturbing is, in the weeks leading up to the midterm elections, that some of campaign ads, from both political parties, took a whip at China, in order to discredit the other party. They sure find an audience in the largely homogeneous and often racist groups, but put on the international stage, people wound find them distasteful. And in terms of soft power, or the long-term political influence and persuasiveness of the U.S., these undeserved whippings undermine it, something that we wouldn’t realize at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: MESTRAW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MESTRAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, stupid fellow American citizens, why are we worrying about China when we have issues?  Shouldn&#039;t we pay attention to our lives?  Worrying about others WILL NOT solve our problems.  What is wrong with us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, stupid fellow American citizens, why are we worrying about China when we have issues?  Shouldn&#8217;t we pay attention to our lives?  Worrying about others WILL NOT solve our problems.  What is wrong with us?</p>
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		<title>By: MESTRAW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MESTRAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing.  Our enemy is not China.  Our enemy is our government and our coorporations who are conspiring to steal from their own citizens of their mone and their civil liberty and rest of the world of their money.  Gee.  I forgot.  We, Americns, are stupid.  For example, how is that banks are able to lend money that they do not have and charge interest?  Someone please explain this to me, that is, if you are not STUPID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing.  Our enemy is not China.  Our enemy is our government and our coorporations who are conspiring to steal from their own citizens of their mone and their civil liberty and rest of the world of their money.  Gee.  I forgot.  We, Americns, are stupid.  For example, how is that banks are able to lend money that they do not have and charge interest?  Someone please explain this to me, that is, if you are not STUPID.</p>
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		<title>By: fred5407</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like another country to blame for our politicians in Washington and in alot of state houses also.  We have cooked our own goose by not stepping.  The middle class working people have to start acting like middle class and compete in the market rather than hiding out in part time full time government jobs and in companies where the union thinks they run the plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like another country to blame for our politicians in Washington and in alot of state houses also.  We have cooked our own goose by not stepping.  The middle class working people have to start acting like middle class and compete in the market rather than hiding out in part time full time government jobs and in companies where the union thinks they run the plant.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo33</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philo33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, genocide in Tibet. There we set a good example for China and the rest of the world: look at the carnage we have left behind in the native American communities(if they can be called communities) over the 200 hundred years.

As to the fifty million murdered(more likely starved) in the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, they did on their own, which was sad but doesn&#039;t stir up too much of my sympathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, genocide in Tibet. There we set a good example for China and the rest of the world: look at the carnage we have left behind in the native American communities(if they can be called communities) over the 200 hundred years.</p>
<p>As to the fifty million murdered(more likely starved) in the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, they did on their own, which was sad but doesn&#8217;t stir up too much of my sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: blah77</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny_Black: Hypocrisy rears its ugly head once again. I think that you&#039;ll find that during the past century since the U.S. came to dominance, we have also supported many so called &quot;evil&quot; regimes financially, militarily, covertly or otherwise. Definitely far more so than China. What&#039;s even more ridiculous is that in many cases, we supported those regimes only to turn around and topple them years later should they choose to stop playing by our rules. The Middle East or Latin America as a whole are rife with examples of these types of active or intervention if you will, often under the disguise of humanitarian causes. 
 
Mheld45: Don&#039;t try to simplify the national interest issue. There are major differences between the methods China and U.S. choose to employ in pursuit of their own interests. 

The U.S. by and large chooses to be proactive or even preemptive when it comes to foreign policies. We also tend of enjoy using military intervention as a form of blunt instrument diplomacy way too much. In any case, the mentality of &quot;let&#039;s hurt them before they can hurt us&quot; seems to be the recurring theme.

China in contrast is more reative. They don&#039;t actively go strolling around the world looking for problems or in some cases, create them like we do. They certainly do not go into countries with the mentality of *fixing* the problem to suit their own ideological, economic or strategic agenda. Instead, they prefer to react or adapt to the pre-existing conditions simply by adjust their own policies. The upper echelon PRC officials are often referred to as technocrats for this very reason. It is very calculating for sure but it&#039;s also pragmatic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny_Black: Hypocrisy rears its ugly head once again. I think that you&#8217;ll find that during the past century since the U.S. came to dominance, we have also supported many so called &#8220;evil&#8221; regimes financially, militarily, covertly or otherwise. Definitely far more so than China. What&#8217;s even more ridiculous is that in many cases, we supported those regimes only to turn around and topple them years later should they choose to stop playing by our rules. The Middle East or Latin America as a whole are rife with examples of these types of active or intervention if you will, often under the disguise of humanitarian causes. </p>
<p>Mheld45: Don&#8217;t try to simplify the national interest issue. There are major differences between the methods China and U.S. choose to employ in pursuit of their own interests. </p>
<p>The U.S. by and large chooses to be proactive or even preemptive when it comes to foreign policies. We also tend of enjoy using military intervention as a form of blunt instrument diplomacy way too much. In any case, the mentality of &#8220;let&#8217;s hurt them before they can hurt us&#8221; seems to be the recurring theme.</p>
<p>China in contrast is more reative. They don&#8217;t actively go strolling around the world looking for problems or in some cases, create them like we do. They certainly do not go into countries with the mentality of *fixing* the problem to suit their own ideological, economic or strategic agenda. Instead, they prefer to react or adapt to the pre-existing conditions simply by adjust their own policies. The upper echelon PRC officials are often referred to as technocrats for this very reason. It is very calculating for sure but it&#8217;s also pragmatic.</p>
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