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		<title>By: Bobseager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobseager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nobody  has the right to kill noone, but the US doesnt care, the political interests, the central banks, the investors, dont care. the US is an organization that has attacked civilians in other nations. for years, innocent people.

i believe only cuba and iran are the only 2 countries left without a central bank, research... the assassinations will keep coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody  has the right to kill noone, but the US doesnt care, the political interests, the central banks, the investors, dont care. the US is an organization that has attacked civilians in other nations. for years, innocent people.</p>
<p>i believe only cuba and iran are the only 2 countries left without a central bank, research&#8230; the assassinations will keep coming.</p>
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		<title>By: joebanana</title>
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		<dc:creator>joebanana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether we like it or not, we still have laws in this country, and nobody is above them, not even our citizen president. He can&#039;t give himself the power to murder,or order someones murder. Laws in this country apply to all equally, no single person can have laws that apply just to them, that&#039;s ludicrous.  Obama needs to be tried in an international court for murder. If Al-Qaeda flew into Texas and killed bush and dumped the body at sea, how legal is that? We would have to accept it, as Pakistan did.
Nobody is to be deprived of life without due process. PERIOD. Not only did Obama violate the right to life, he violated the constitution he swore to uphold.
So, guess who the world&#039;s number one terrorist is now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether we like it or not, we still have laws in this country, and nobody is above them, not even our citizen president. He can&#8217;t give himself the power to murder,or order someones murder. Laws in this country apply to all equally, no single person can have laws that apply just to them, that&#8217;s ludicrous.  Obama needs to be tried in an international court for murder. If Al-Qaeda flew into Texas and killed bush and dumped the body at sea, how legal is that? We would have to accept it, as Pakistan did.<br />
Nobody is to be deprived of life without due process. PERIOD. Not only did Obama violate the right to life, he violated the constitution he swore to uphold.<br />
So, guess who the world&#8217;s number one terrorist is now?</p>
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		<title>By: brian-decree</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian-decree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 14:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The opinions in this piece assume a great many things.

First, it assumes Al Queda is not only a functional terrorist organization, but that they are a large and highly stuctured, sophisticated, multinational organization capable of orchestrating global jihad against the west.  Despite there being little to no evidence of any actual membership or real links to any other islamic militants anywhere.

It assumes that a single piece of &#039;evidence&#039;, widely criticised as fraudulent (the Osama videotape admission), and released without confirmation from Al Queda many years after 9/11, is an indictment of Bin Laden in what has otherwise been consistantly denied from the beginning.

From this point of assumption the rest of the opinions are forged, though even had these opinions been fact there is still a strong case for moral bankruptcy and anti-democratic logic in your argument.

Assuming Bin Laden was all you say he was and the same was true of Al Queda, and the US is all it says it is and the same of their military...  it is not acceptable that this advanced military monstrosity led by the self proclaimed moral compass of the free world compromise in the final hour of their greatest moral victory!

How dare you, as a writer with responsibilities, even suggest to me that after 10 years of the world hearing nothing but how moral, just and free we are in the west compared to our enemies, we are now supposed to believe that at the 11th hour when we had that one chance to prove our moral superiority once and for all, we instead chose to execute a group of unarmed men... and that is ok because revealing the truth about them in a trial would provoke anger???  

This is absolutely ridiculous and insulting.

Your suggestion that money should play any part in the matter is idiotic, whats millions of dollars to a country who offered a $40 million dollar reward for his capture in the first place?  And we know exactly where he would go - guantanamo bay... 

He was killed because he was not who we think he was, and because his prosecution would have been extremely embarrassing due to legalities and lack of evidence.  

For a country who basically invented the present idea of Bin Laden and Al Queda, started wars and killed countless thousands using them as justification, it would be integrity suicide to show the world anything else.  

You show me a single piece of information, that doesn&#039;t come directly from the mouth of Bin Laden&#039;s enemies, that even suggests he HAD a network of followers let alone made them swear an oath to him personally.

Whether US law forbids the targeted assasination of heads of state or not, the CIA has a long and documented track record of assasination and support for terrorism throughout the world so it&#039;s irrelevant. 
What matters more is why?

This is what we DO know.

*  The US trained, armed and funded islamic militants in Afghanistan in the 80&#039;s to draw them into a proxy war with the USSR.  Osama Bin Laden was among those militants.

*  Osama was also trained in the US.

*  Many US officials in high places have close personal and business relationships with the Bin Laden family, and have had for decades.

*  The US has an extremely appeasing, strategically imperative and profitable relationship with the Islamic dictatorship of Saudi Arabia.

*  The CIA and ISI shared an extremely close relationship in the creation of the Afghan Mujaheddin, and the handling of their asset Bin Laden.

*  The ONLY publicly known account of Al Queda as a functioning organization, it&#039;s structure and even it&#039;s name before 9/11 is the testimony of a so called Al Queda operative who turned himself in after the Kenya US embassy bombings and who is widely regarded as having given false information to help clasify Al Queda as an organization to fit with current RICO laws for prosecuting international criminal syndicates.  He is also known to have recieved a lot of money for his testimony.

*  The only evidence actually linking Bin Laden to 9/11 in any way is a video confession which surfaced many years after 2001, was not confirmed by &#039;Al Queda&#039; and is widely suspected of being a fraud.  And the testimony of a guantanamo bay inmate tortured for years and thus completely unreliable.

*  The US has used &#039;Terrorism&#039; as a trigger for war and expansion into the middle east and central asia.  
An area Obama&#039;s top advisor Brezinski writes in his book as being of pivotal importance to the continuity of US power.  A man you can find on film rallying jihadists to power in Afghanistan with cries of &quot;god is on your side!&quot;.

*  The US has used &#039;Terrorism&#039; as a trigger for the privitization of defense infrastructure at home and abroad.  

*  The US has used &#039;Terrorism&#039; as an excuse to strangle civil liberties and democratic freedoms.

*  The US installed the Karzai &#039;government&#039; at a time of it&#039;s choosing.

*  Under US occupation Afghanistan now supplies over 90% of the world&#039;s herion.  The world&#039;s most dangerous and addictive narcotic.  The Taliban outlawed and eradicated production.

*  The US is now known to have manipulated evidence and the public on a grand scale as a pretext to invade a country for strategic purposes, causing civil war and immense casualties.

*  The US economy is in VERY bad shape right now.

*  The Obama administration retreated back step by step with their official story of what happened in the Osama raid.  

First they said there was an intense gun battle and now we know the enemies didn&#039;t fire a single shot.

Osama used his wife as a human shield and fired on his attackers, now she tried to protect him and he was executed unarmed.

And you expect people to listen to you guys anymore??  

Sadly, western media and government sources have become so colossally discredited in the last few decades, in particular the last 10 years, that now people are just too exhausted or embarrassed to really challenge anything...  

Because the only power we have to do so is in the pathetic, though free, theatre of internet blogs.. apparently now also discredited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opinions in this piece assume a great many things.</p>
<p>First, it assumes Al Queda is not only a functional terrorist organization, but that they are a large and highly stuctured, sophisticated, multinational organization capable of orchestrating global jihad against the west.  Despite there being little to no evidence of any actual membership or real links to any other islamic militants anywhere.</p>
<p>It assumes that a single piece of &#8216;evidence&#8217;, widely criticised as fraudulent (the Osama videotape admission), and released without confirmation from Al Queda many years after 9/11, is an indictment of Bin Laden in what has otherwise been consistantly denied from the beginning.</p>
<p>From this point of assumption the rest of the opinions are forged, though even had these opinions been fact there is still a strong case for moral bankruptcy and anti-democratic logic in your argument.</p>
<p>Assuming Bin Laden was all you say he was and the same was true of Al Queda, and the US is all it says it is and the same of their military&#8230;  it is not acceptable that this advanced military monstrosity led by the self proclaimed moral compass of the free world compromise in the final hour of their greatest moral victory!</p>
<p>How dare you, as a writer with responsibilities, even suggest to me that after 10 years of the world hearing nothing but how moral, just and free we are in the west compared to our enemies, we are now supposed to believe that at the 11th hour when we had that one chance to prove our moral superiority once and for all, we instead chose to execute a group of unarmed men&#8230; and that is ok because revealing the truth about them in a trial would provoke anger???  </p>
<p>This is absolutely ridiculous and insulting.</p>
<p>Your suggestion that money should play any part in the matter is idiotic, whats millions of dollars to a country who offered a $40 million dollar reward for his capture in the first place?  And we know exactly where he would go &#8211; guantanamo bay&#8230; </p>
<p>He was killed because he was not who we think he was, and because his prosecution would have been extremely embarrassing due to legalities and lack of evidence.  </p>
<p>For a country who basically invented the present idea of Bin Laden and Al Queda, started wars and killed countless thousands using them as justification, it would be integrity suicide to show the world anything else.  </p>
<p>You show me a single piece of information, that doesn&#8217;t come directly from the mouth of Bin Laden&#8217;s enemies, that even suggests he HAD a network of followers let alone made them swear an oath to him personally.</p>
<p>Whether US law forbids the targeted assasination of heads of state or not, the CIA has a long and documented track record of assasination and support for terrorism throughout the world so it&#8217;s irrelevant.<br />
What matters more is why?</p>
<p>This is what we DO know.</p>
<p>*  The US trained, armed and funded islamic militants in Afghanistan in the 80&#8242;s to draw them into a proxy war with the USSR.  Osama Bin Laden was among those militants.</p>
<p>*  Osama was also trained in the US.</p>
<p>*  Many US officials in high places have close personal and business relationships with the Bin Laden family, and have had for decades.</p>
<p>*  The US has an extremely appeasing, strategically imperative and profitable relationship with the Islamic dictatorship of Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>*  The CIA and ISI shared an extremely close relationship in the creation of the Afghan Mujaheddin, and the handling of their asset Bin Laden.</p>
<p>*  The ONLY publicly known account of Al Queda as a functioning organization, it&#8217;s structure and even it&#8217;s name before 9/11 is the testimony of a so called Al Queda operative who turned himself in after the Kenya US embassy bombings and who is widely regarded as having given false information to help clasify Al Queda as an organization to fit with current RICO laws for prosecuting international criminal syndicates.  He is also known to have recieved a lot of money for his testimony.</p>
<p>*  The only evidence actually linking Bin Laden to 9/11 in any way is a video confession which surfaced many years after 2001, was not confirmed by &#8216;Al Queda&#8217; and is widely suspected of being a fraud.  And the testimony of a guantanamo bay inmate tortured for years and thus completely unreliable.</p>
<p>*  The US has used &#8216;Terrorism&#8217; as a trigger for war and expansion into the middle east and central asia.<br />
An area Obama&#8217;s top advisor Brezinski writes in his book as being of pivotal importance to the continuity of US power.  A man you can find on film rallying jihadists to power in Afghanistan with cries of &#8220;god is on your side!&#8221;.</p>
<p>*  The US has used &#8216;Terrorism&#8217; as a trigger for the privitization of defense infrastructure at home and abroad.  </p>
<p>*  The US has used &#8216;Terrorism&#8217; as an excuse to strangle civil liberties and democratic freedoms.</p>
<p>*  The US installed the Karzai &#8216;government&#8217; at a time of it&#8217;s choosing.</p>
<p>*  Under US occupation Afghanistan now supplies over 90% of the world&#8217;s herion.  The world&#8217;s most dangerous and addictive narcotic.  The Taliban outlawed and eradicated production.</p>
<p>*  The US is now known to have manipulated evidence and the public on a grand scale as a pretext to invade a country for strategic purposes, causing civil war and immense casualties.</p>
<p>*  The US economy is in VERY bad shape right now.</p>
<p>*  The Obama administration retreated back step by step with their official story of what happened in the Osama raid.  </p>
<p>First they said there was an intense gun battle and now we know the enemies didn&#8217;t fire a single shot.</p>
<p>Osama used his wife as a human shield and fired on his attackers, now she tried to protect him and he was executed unarmed.</p>
<p>And you expect people to listen to you guys anymore??  </p>
<p>Sadly, western media and government sources have become so colossally discredited in the last few decades, in particular the last 10 years, that now people are just too exhausted or embarrassed to really challenge anything&#8230;  </p>
<p>Because the only power we have to do so is in the pathetic, though free, theatre of internet blogs.. apparently now also discredited.</p>
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		<title>By: CuriousCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>CuriousCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 05:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why wasn&#039;t John Demjanjuk &#039;executed&#039; in the same way? He was complicit in the murder of 27,000 people!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13369035</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why wasn&#8217;t John Demjanjuk &#8216;executed&#8217; in the same way? He was complicit in the murder of 27,000 people!<br />
<a href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13369035'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-1 3369035</a></p>
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		<title>By: armonid</title>
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		<dc:creator>armonid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 06:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US can kill as many people as they wish with impunity. They prove it in the past and they will in the future. Why? They are the most powerful country in the world and will do whatever it takes to keep it this way. They did not joint International Criminal Court for this very purpose.
Morality does not exist in this country. Make no mistake; I am not talking about normal individuals here, but the 1% of greedy American individuals and corporations who control the geopolitical agenda of this powerful country. If we make exception of few liberal minds, that make quite a number who are being brain wash with key buzz words such as &lt;democracy, free society, human right and alike&gt; on the very purpose to keep the herd of sheep in line behind the leaders.
US do not need enemies. US can create and train their own. To help rugg regime like Saddam to fight Iran, then to train OBL and his followers to fight the Russian in Afghanistan, then the rebels in Misrata to fight the bad guy in Tripoli and there it goes, terrorism in the making.
In my view there are three kinds of terrorism. US should say mea culpa at least on two counts.
1.	Plain terrorism: One individual who choose to blown himself up and kill indiscriminately as many people as possible.
2.	State terrorism: Sovereign country killing indiscriminately civilians to get their high value target and calling the lost &lt;collateral damage&gt;. Ex: drome attack in Afghanistan or Pakistan;
3.	Economic terrorism: Sovereign country starving civilians of another sovereign country to achieve their geopolitics’ goals. Ex: regime change in Iran and North Korean or collective punishment of Palestine.
The real enemies of American people are their ignorance of their leaders who fabricate their own source of terrors to legitimate their crime against humanity and consequently assure they will stay in the driver seat for their selfish wealth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US can kill as many people as they wish with impunity. They prove it in the past and they will in the future. Why? They are the most powerful country in the world and will do whatever it takes to keep it this way. They did not joint International Criminal Court for this very purpose.<br />
Morality does not exist in this country. Make no mistake; I am not talking about normal individuals here, but the 1% of greedy American individuals and corporations who control the geopolitical agenda of this powerful country. If we make exception of few liberal minds, that make quite a number who are being brain wash with key buzz words such as  on the very purpose to keep the herd of sheep in line behind the leaders.<br />
US do not need enemies. US can create and train their own. To help rugg regime like Saddam to fight Iran, then to train OBL and his followers to fight the Russian in Afghanistan, then the rebels in Misrata to fight the bad guy in Tripoli and there it goes, terrorism in the making.<br />
In my view there are three kinds of terrorism. US should say mea culpa at least on two counts.<br />
1.	Plain terrorism: One individual who choose to blown himself up and kill indiscriminately as many people as possible.<br />
2.	State terrorism: Sovereign country killing indiscriminately civilians to get their high value target and calling the lost . Ex: drome attack in Afghanistan or Pakistan;<br />
3.	Economic terrorism: Sovereign country starving civilians of another sovereign country to achieve their geopolitics’ goals. Ex: regime change in Iran and North Korean or collective punishment of Palestine.<br />
The real enemies of American people are their ignorance of their leaders who fabricate their own source of terrors to legitimate their crime against humanity and consequently assure they will stay in the driver seat for their selfish wealth!</p>
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		<title>By: Pounder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pounder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose a war on Iran would be very expensive. 

Now that the boogyman has gone a quick whitewash in Afghanistan -maybe some schools, a friendly puppet military or police force controlled government, oil pipeline secured and the US can pull out before the next election. Looks great to the unlearned herd voters.

Just after the election holiday the same and forces can then be re-committed using a Libyan, Israel or Iraq base and whammo go into Iran - all cost effective-like Obama likes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose a war on Iran would be very expensive. </p>
<p>Now that the boogyman has gone a quick whitewash in Afghanistan -maybe some schools, a friendly puppet military or police force controlled government, oil pipeline secured and the US can pull out before the next election. Looks great to the unlearned herd voters.</p>
<p>Just after the election holiday the same and forces can then be re-committed using a Libyan, Israel or Iraq base and whammo go into Iran &#8211; all cost effective-like Obama likes.</p>
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		<title>By: wladi</title>
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		<dc:creator>wladi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 10:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be honest I am curious what Osama would tell the judge? did anyone want him to speak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest I am curious what Osama would tell the judge? did anyone want him to speak?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexi222</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexi222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 09:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The raid was honorable&quot;

-I dont agree, as it was another dirty chapter in a dirty war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The raid was honorable&#8221;</p>
<p>-I dont agree, as it was another dirty chapter in a dirty war.</p>
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		<title>By: Dafydd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dafydd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 08:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that a quick clean kill in a case such as this (where guilt really is established beyond any shred of sane doubt), and anything ANYTHING beats the Soviet style show trial put on for Saddam, you need to think carefully before you speak.

So, when someone goes around killing innocent civilians, it is fone to kill them?

To what extent does that make George W Bush a legitimate target? Or any US general from the last ten years?

See the problem? Obama got the tone just about perfect. If only he really would close Guantanamo, the US would have half a chance on getting to grips with the real (economic) threats it faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that a quick clean kill in a case such as this (where guilt really is established beyond any shred of sane doubt), and anything ANYTHING beats the Soviet style show trial put on for Saddam, you need to think carefully before you speak.</p>
<p>So, when someone goes around killing innocent civilians, it is fone to kill them?</p>
<p>To what extent does that make George W Bush a legitimate target? Or any US general from the last ten years?</p>
<p>See the problem? Obama got the tone just about perfect. If only he really would close Guantanamo, the US would have half a chance on getting to grips with the real (economic) threats it faces.</p>
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		<title>By: OCTheo</title>
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		<dc:creator>OCTheo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 07:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has the right to kill another human being. And for a country that claims to be a Christian country, US is a galaxy away from living the Christian life. US kills at home and abroad. US is the epitome of revenge. We imprison more than 50% of the world prisoners.

With all the wars, both covert and declared, US is the top killing machine on earth. And when you count the weapons made and sold by USA, no nation comes close to beating US as the death manufacturer. SO YES, &quot;AMERICAN CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING PROPERLY&quot;. We can kill!

I hope you are very proud of your country, Mr Easterbrook! Osama bin Laden may have planned the 9/11 attacks, but most of the world know that Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda did not carry it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has the right to kill another human being. And for a country that claims to be a Christian country, US is a galaxy away from living the Christian life. US kills at home and abroad. US is the epitome of revenge. We imprison more than 50% of the world prisoners.</p>
<p>With all the wars, both covert and declared, US is the top killing machine on earth. And when you count the weapons made and sold by USA, no nation comes close to beating US as the death manufacturer. SO YES, &#8220;AMERICAN CAN REALLY DO SOMETHING PROPERLY&#8221;. We can kill!</p>
<p>I hope you are very proud of your country, Mr Easterbrook! Osama bin Laden may have planned the 9/11 attacks, but most of the world know that Osama bin Laden and the Al Qaeda did not carry it out.</p>
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