Comments on: All roads lead to Berlusconi’s Rome. For now. http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/ Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: lbo_it_rm http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23 lbo_it_rm Fri, 04 Nov 2011 08:24:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=131#comment-23 I'd Like to know why italian pensions are generally called "generous". the vast majority of pensions are 1000-1200 euro/month earned after life long contributions ending at 65 years. sure we have such scandals as members of parliament obtaining 3000 euro/month for having hold the charge for just one day, while the hard-working ones (the two Parliament chambers works two days per week) enjoy 9000 euro/month after some years of "service". but these pensions, and other quite high ones earned by well positioned high ranks civil servants remain unknown by reforms an debates. what the government really want is to leave their retirement privileges untouched (as well as those of their friends) and compress the already low levels for the common people with the excuse that "the bad guys in Europe ask us". I see also some superficiality from the foreign press (usually so accurate and lucid in describing italian politics) when they depict the italian pensions as generically "over-generous". the common italian person pension is more or less the same as other europeans ones, minus the fact that services for elderly people (hospitals etc.) are practically non existant. I’d Like to know why italian pensions are generally called “generous”.

the vast majority of pensions are 1000-1200 euro/month earned after life long contributions ending at 65 years.

sure we have such scandals as members of parliament obtaining 3000 euro/month for having hold the charge for just one day, while the hard-working ones (the two Parliament chambers works two days per week) enjoy 9000 euro/month after some years of “service”.

but these pensions, and other quite high ones earned by well positioned high ranks civil servants remain unknown by reforms an debates.

what the government really want is to leave their retirement privileges untouched (as well as those of their friends) and compress the already low levels for the common people with the excuse that “the bad guys in Europe ask us”.

I see also some superficiality from the foreign press (usually so accurate and lucid in describing italian politics) when they depict the italian pensions as generically “over-generous”. the common italian person pension is more or less the same as other europeans ones, minus the fact that services for elderly people (hospitals etc.) are practically non existant.

]]> By: ARJTurgot2 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-21 ARJTurgot2 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:26:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=131#comment-21 The BBC article points to an interesting case: The USG's ability to tax other states and fund Michigan did not result in solutions to the Michigan problem, it simply led to a series of increasingly corrupt politicians and an aggravated downward spiral. Now the corrupt politicians are still in place, the problem is no closer to solution, and the other states don't have money as well. The BBC article points to an interesting case: The USG’s ability to tax other states and fund Michigan did not result in solutions to the Michigan problem, it simply led to a series of increasingly corrupt politicians and an aggravated downward spiral. Now the corrupt politicians are still in place, the problem is no closer to solution, and the other states don’t have money as well.

]]> By: r.felder http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-20 r.felder Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:57:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=131#comment-20 From the article: "But the EFSF’s resources are not limitless. If Italian politics remains dysfunctional, Europe could soon be back in crisis mode." What do you mean "could soon be back in crisis mode"?? The blind could see that they already are. From the article: “But the EFSF’s resources are not limitless. If Italian politics remains dysfunctional, Europe could soon be back in crisis mode.” What do you mean “could soon be back in crisis mode”??

The blind could see that they already are.

]]> By: Jim1648 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Jim1648 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:48:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=131#comment-19 If saving Europe depends on Italy getting a functional government, then tough luck. It is a truism in Italy that they haven't had one for 2000 years. If saving Europe depends on Italy getting a functional government, then tough luck. It is a truism in Italy that they haven’t had one for 2000 years.

]]> By: Ocala123456789 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2011/10/31/all-roads-lead-to-berlusconis-rome-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Ocala123456789 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:19:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=131#comment-16 will you replace him w Italy's communist politicians? then it will totally be the second Greece case... communists and socialists killed EU... what a sad story for our arrogant friends... will you replace him w Italy’s communist politicians? then it will totally be the second Greece case… communists and socialists killed EU… what a sad story for our arrogant friends…

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