Comments on: Spanish circle getting hard to square http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/10/15/spanish-circle-getting-hard-to-square/ Mon, 20 May 2013 22:13:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: ZGHerm http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/10/15/spanish-circle-getting-hard-to-square/comment-page-1/#comment-500 ZGHerm Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:07:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=423#comment-500 The example of squaring circles is a good one, still I would turn it around. The problem with Spain, Europe and in fact with the whole global economy and political leadership is that everybody tries to push a square through circle, or more precisely try to push on, force a polarized, fragmented, isolationist mindset and behavior in a world that has become round, global, that has evolved into a totally interwoven and interdependent network. All our present tools, methods, Nobel Prize winning ideas are based on the "old", square reality, and they do not work in the new round, circle shaped reality. Besides the main engine, the constant quantitative growth economic model has also become obsolete, exhausted and unsustainable, which fact is proven daily by the daily vents of the crisis, and more and more scientific studies. We need fundamentally new political and economic theories, and practice, basically we need a total operating software reinstallation adapted to the "hardware", the global, integrated reality around us. The example of squaring circles is a good one, still I would turn it around.
The problem with Spain, Europe and in fact with the whole global economy and political leadership is that everybody tries to push a square through circle, or more precisely try to push on, force a polarized, fragmented, isolationist mindset and behavior in a world that has become round, global, that has evolved into a totally interwoven and interdependent network.
All our present tools, methods, Nobel Prize winning ideas are based on the “old”, square reality, and they do not work in the new round, circle shaped reality.
Besides the main engine, the constant quantitative growth economic model has also become obsolete, exhausted and unsustainable, which fact is proven daily by the daily vents of the crisis, and more and more scientific studies.
We need fundamentally new political and economic theories, and practice, basically we need a total operating software reinstallation adapted to the “hardware”, the global, integrated reality around us.

]]> By: Gordon2352 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/10/15/spanish-circle-getting-hard-to-square/comment-page-1/#comment-499 Gordon2352 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:41:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=423#comment-499 You state, "The art of politics is about squaring circles. In the euro crisis, this means pushing ahead with painful but necessary reforms while hanging onto power." It's amazing that in this one short paragraph you identify all the problems of the eurozone, yet seem to understand none of them. (1) "painful reforms" of the kind you are urging are neither desirable nor necessary. What is necessary is that the wealthy class return to money they stole. (2) Perhaps if the eurozone governments were less interested in "hanging on to power" and more interested in serving the needs of their own people instead of those of the wealthy class, the "crisis" could find a solution. (3) Which brings us to your unfortunate metaphor about politics attempting to "square the circle" that is really at the heart of the matter. Politics, as it is now, tries to do the impossible, and always fails at the task. The reason? (From Wikipedia) "In 1882, the task was proven to be impossible, as a consequence of the Lindemann–Weierstrass theorem which proves that pi (π) is a transcendental, rather than an algebraic irrational number; that is, it is not the root of any polynomial with rational coefficients." You state, “The art of politics is about squaring circles. In the euro crisis, this means pushing ahead with painful but necessary reforms while hanging onto power.”

It’s amazing that in this one short paragraph you identify all the problems of the eurozone, yet seem to understand none of them.

(1) “painful reforms” of the kind you are urging are neither desirable nor necessary. What is necessary is that the wealthy class return to money they stole.

(2) Perhaps if the eurozone governments were less interested in “hanging on to power” and more interested in serving the needs of their own people instead of those of the wealthy class, the “crisis” could find a solution.

(3) Which brings us to your unfortunate metaphor about politics attempting to “square the circle” that is really at the heart of the matter. Politics, as it is now, tries to do the impossible, and always fails at the task. The reason?

(From Wikipedia) “In 1882, the task was proven to be impossible, as a consequence of the Lindemann–Weierstrass theorem which proves that pi (π) is a transcendental, rather than an algebraic irrational number; that is, it is not the root of any polynomial with rational coefficients.”

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