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By: DariuszBolesta http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/11/12/brexit-could-come-before-grexit/comment-page-1/#comment-516 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:15:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=441#comment-516 I’d like to draw reader’s attention to the following possible consequences of Brexit:
1) Bad emotions raising in EU after Britain’s show-up of abandoning Europe in integrational efforts in cultural and economical imparity.
2) British politicians seam had never understood the importance of English language in modern world (focused only on its opportunity for themselves), and so their mission for EU to maintain it. So, in my opinion, there would be the biggest damage of BREXIT for EU. People on continent will feel awkward to continue communicating using it.
Given above we should not be surprised when we’ll see:
– The raise of economic importance for Ireland as knowledge connector (the science relies far on English).
– Raising polarisation between English and non-English speaking group of nations, so maybe some side effects can appear.
– Deepening by EU of further partnership based cooperation with Russia (knowing that Russians, Germans, Poles and many other countries) would be happy to rebuild it on healthy basis. This could go for the vision of Russia becoming the connector with Asian economies.

Above draft vision makes me reluctant about long-term prosperity for UK, the language which I learned, the peoples I appreciate, and my hopes for ambitions in professional targets I saw there. Is Mr Cameron preparing historic turn for GB, turning it into gypsy state for incoming decades (oh yes people in EU will keep good souvenirs of English literature, song writing, golf culture, …)?

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By: Dafydd http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/11/12/brexit-could-come-before-grexit/comment-page-1/#comment-507 Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:36:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=441#comment-507 While your logic is impeccable, and that of the tory eurosceptics sadly lacking, I do not think Britain would easily vote to leave the EU.

The EU is an easy scapegoat, but if a person’s job depends on trade, they will vote to stay in while telling pollsters, friends and neighbours they are dead against.

So anyone who works in finance, manufacturing or tourism will be voting to stay in. Or anyone with a close family member working in those industries. That looks like a yes vote. I agree with Milband on this one.

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By: matthewslyman http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/2012/11/12/brexit-could-come-before-grexit/comment-page-1/#comment-506 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:00:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/hugo-dixon/?p=441#comment-506 > “Cameron’s biggest error was to veto last year the so-called “fiscal compact”, which binds euro zone countries to budgetary responsibility. The proposal wasn’t even going to affect the UK. Moreover, the rest of the EU got its own way anyway by signing a new treaty that didn’t involve Britain.”
— Ludicrous posturing by the Conservative Party, guaranteed to do little but save them from the ire of Murdoch’s remaining gutter tabloids, at the cost of offending all of our European neighbours.

It’s quite possible Britain would be the first country to leave the EU. Think also of the huge gap between Britain’s position and the EU commission position on the EU budget:

BBC: EU budget talks for 2013 collapse
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-2 0269373

On the other hand, consider the Conservative Party’s current coalition with the Liberal Democrats (a pro-EU party — they believe in the vision of a united Europe). The Conservatives upset them previously on two fundamental parts of their coalition agreement (using dishonest propaganda to convince everyone to vote against electoral reform, and then playing hard-ball with Europe over a treaty that didn’t even affect us directly and which on balance would have been good for Britain by stabilising European fiscal arrangements & supporting market confidence).
The Liberal Democrats are now spoiling for a fight. If Britain leaves the EU, the coalition will certainly break down, there will be an early general election, and for once business will side with the political left and centre-left against the newly isolated Conservatives as Britain’s economic numbers start to take a nose-dive with investors fleeing the newly isolated UK market en-masse. The result would almost certainly be an electoral defeat for the Conservatives.

I think the Conservatives know this. So the chances of a UK exit from the EU any time soon are very small…

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