Comments on: What MH17 means for Russia-Ukraine http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/ Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:27:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: SaveRMiddle http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1265 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:19:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1265 oops…I’m repeating myself. Thought my earlier post was distinguished by moderators.

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By: SaveRMiddle http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1263 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:42:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1263 Tragic aftermath of yet another US-CIA led regime change.

The list just grows longer.

[Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was spurred by U.S. behind-the-scenes actions, says former Ohio congressman and Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.

“From what I’m hearing, you’re blaming the USA for subverting Ukraine in the first place, thereby giving Putin a pass to go in and invade,” he told Kucinich.

“That’s close,” Kucinich answered. “We should be concerned about the Ukrainian people, because they’re being used right now. They would be used by the IMF in a new austerity program, by NATO to go on the doorstep of Russia.”]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/russia- ukraine-covert-operations-Dennis-Kuchini ch/2014/03/04/id/556082/

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By: jrpardinas http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1261 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:00:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1261 The Russians, and the Russians separatists in East Ukraine, should not go on the defensive over this accident – even if they’re truly responsible.

They should learn from the Americans who never apologize for the millions of innocents they’ve killed and continue to kill and their serial wars of aggression (e.g. Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.).

Washington never apologizes for its equally-deadly sowing of political chaos (e.g. Ukraine, Venezuela), or its backing of terrorist organizations such as the Sunni extremists in Syria (Obama just gave them half a billion).

Washington and its European flunkies (Germany, France, Britain) never apologize for the slow-motion ethnic cleansing/genocide they’ve underwritten for decades against the Palestinian people.

East Ukraine is a war zone where a NATO/Washington-sponsored professional military is trying to impose itself by brute force on ethnic Russians seeking political autonomy. That airplane had no business flying there. People die in war zones, that’s what war zones are about.

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By: Laster http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1256 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:10:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1256 Those air traffic controllers picked one hell of a day to quit sniffing glue. :)

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By: CanyonLiveOak http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1253 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 13:30:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1253 Bless the souls of those who perished in this attack. I can’t help but think that the picture that emerges from the evidence collected at the crash site will somehow feel like a carefully arranged diorama, meant to impart a particular view of events…my skepticism is telling me to question any conclusions that result from this investigation, at least in the short run, as tensions are high and all of those on the field (and many on the sidelines) are gaming to get in and make a play.

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By: Cassiopian http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1250 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:11:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1250 The apologies for Putin and the “separatists” (or in most appropriate vernacular, terrorists) are disturbing. Once again, as in the late 1930’s, a Russian autocrat preys upon the Ukrainian bloodlands. I wonder how some of the apologists for Putin would respond if the Crimean Tatars revolt in Crimea and try to slice away a piece of that turf,killing Russian security forces in the process, or if Chechen rebels downed a Russian airliner in the name of “freedom” and “independence” for Chechnya. Actually, we do know how Putin would respond as he did several years ago – by turning Chechnyan cities into rubble.
Russian fingers are all over this tragedy and lets hope the international community makes the flailing and sinking Russian economy scream.

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By: mike355f1 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1248 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:56:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1248 Russians are disgusting.

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By: Cassiopian http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1247 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:54:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1247 The apologies for Putin and the “separatists” (or in most appropriate vernacular, terrorists) are disturbing. Once again, as in the late 1930’s, a Russian autocrat preys upon the Ukrainian bloodlands. I wonder how some of the apologists for Putin would respond if the Crimean Tatars revolt in Crimea and try to slice away a piece of that turf,killing Russian security forces in the process, or if Chechen rebels downed a Russian airliner in the name of “freedom” and “independence” for Chechnya. Actually, we do know how Putin would respond as he did several years ago – by turning Chechnyan cities into rubble.
Russian fingers are all over this tragedy and lets hope the international community makes the flailing and sinking Russian economy scream.

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By: Hahahappy http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1229 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 04:58:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1229 I guess innocent till proven guilty does not apply to Russian

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By: Timbuk3 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/2014/07/18/what-mh17-means-for-russia-ukraine/#comment-1228 Sat, 19 Jul 2014 04:48:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/ian-bremmer/?p=1535#comment-1228 I believe that Russian-backed separatists shot down this plan out of incompetence, not as an intentional “act of terror”. I also reject the using the term “terrorist” as a label to attach to your enemy “du jour.” If separatists were planting roadside bombs and blowing up bus stations, then yes, the label applies. But simply using your Russian bully friends to gain freedom from your current government and gain political power makes the a selfish revolt with little benefit to actual Ukrainians.

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