Comments on: U.S.-India dispute: A diplomat and a double-standard laid bare http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/ Straight from the Specialists Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:25:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: zamo14 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 Sat, 11 Jan 2014 23:50:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1049 A rare balanced report from a Western writer. However, he is barking up the wrong tree if he believes that these non-reciprocal privileges could be restored to American diplomats. That ship sailed a long time ago. Those “security barriers” were unilaterally put up by the Americans on a public street just so that their diplomats could easily get to their “club” across the street; never mind the inconvenience to the locals and everyone else. Indian diplomats face the same security threats from the same actors, and yet their embassy in the US was denied their request not to locate a public parking lot adjacently. It is a new world. Get used to it.

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By: hariknaidu http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:21:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1047 What’s lost in this legal/diplomatic episode is meaning of *American Exceptionalism* and how its applied world-wide by hegemonic state power of America.

From what I’ve been reading in The Hindu tells me that even a serious paper from old Madras can really whisper that there is something seriously wrong about today’s American hegemonic power.

Compared to America, Indian subcontinent is not only old but culturally more diverse and pluralistic because of what the writer from Rand calls varied *languages*.

Dr Singh has given official notice of retiring in a few months. So expect all hell breaking lose on American diplomats in their sanctuary in Delhi…and more.

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By: Insaan http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 06:38:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1046 @AdamSmith: India has never dropped nuclear bomb and killed million of human beings. You are very good in detailing the phase which India is going through and a little about history. I hope you’ll learn more what attracted people all across the world to India in Medieval period.

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By: BornJinx http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1045 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 06:23:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1045 “27 missions presented compelling arguments that their lower grade employees fall short of minimal living standards. These arguments included accounts of LE staff:
• Removing children from school
• Cutting back to one meal a day
• Sending children to sell water or little cakes or toiletries on the streets
• Foregoing prescription medication”

The staff were getting less than $1 a day!

Guess which country reported this about its own staff ?
http://oig.state.gov/documents/organizat ion/123525.pdf

As brought out by the author, the essential problem is of doublespeak. And the essential trouble will be faced by US embassy staff abroad, who get far more preferential treatment. Imagine if the Delhi police raid the US embassy club in “standard procedure” used for illegal bars and clubs.

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By: reuterssd http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1044 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 03:21:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1044 The real winner in this whole episode is the maid who used the diplomat’s error in filling the D160 form either intentionally or mistakenly and and a over ambitious and naive american prosecutor to get a permanent residency for her and her family in US. Kudos to the maid and her advisors . Long live indian ingenuity.

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By: AdamSmith http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1042 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 01:17:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1042 Visa fraud is a way of life in India.

It was only last month that Infosys Ltd, India’s giant software services firm, was hit with a record $35 million fine on by the US government for rampant visa fraud, both of the H1B Visa program and the B1 Visa program.

One must remember that India has a very different history and culture than the United States.

India’s cultural history includes its famous caste system. The Indian cultural tradition of Suttee, the ritual burning alive of the widows, and Thugee, the ritual strangling of travelers by fanatics who deemed it a religious duty, were stopped only with great difficulty by the British, persisting even into the 20th century.

India’s culture has had migration after migration from every direction. It is made up of Hindus, Moslems, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains and Christians, just to start. India has literally dozens of languages, great corruption, a very high crime rate and chronic diseases like tuberculosis. Everybody speaking a different language, worshiping a different god, fighting each other.

Only last month major news stories have involved the long prevalence and acceptance of gang-rape in India. The caste system is gone, and yet it is not gone.

In India, bribery and government corruption is a way of life. Abusing the H1B visa system there is taken for granted. Abusing the H1B Visa program in India is an industry in and of itself. The vast majority of all H1B visa’s obtained by Indians have at least some element of fraud.

In this current Reuters article, it seems to me that America was right to arrest the Indian official. America should not let the atmosphere of habitual visa corruption (also recently exemplified by Infosys on a large scale) become a way of life in America.

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By: aamatya http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1041 Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:52:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1041 Even if we assume that the diplomat was not on the right side of US Law, there were many ways of handling this issue in a far better manner.
It is clear that an example was made out of it, why? may be Mr Bharara wants to show himself ‘holier than the priest’ and he was successful too. But what it has proved again is that US cannot be trusted, they can’t be friends to anyone.
I’m happy India showed some spine.

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By: WestFlorida http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1039 Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:29:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1039 India owes the United States an apology over this incident. This diplomat should be suspended from her duties pending outcome of this litigation. The best way to resolve the issue would be for India to apologize and issue a statement saying that it is official policy that all overseas representatives obey foreign laws. The crooked and hysterical response in India to this incident including the petty treatment of US representatives, and manufactured investigations does not speak well for India which seems to think that this type of behavior will help matters. India seems to be working under the assumption that some at the US State Department can pick up the phone and call the Federal Prosecutor and ask them to give up the case. This is not possible, although perhaps that is the way things work in India. If this diplomat is innocent, the truth will come out soon enough. If she is not, then after conviction she can be expelled from the United States.

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By: Sreshta http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1038 Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:18:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1038 Lets look at some facts of the case:

1) The maid had a contract signed with the Government of India & was paid according to it. Additionally, as others have pointed out, she lived in a well-furnished Manhattan apartment with meals paid for. So much for the “treated as a slave” canard that the US media trots out

2) If she had a wage dispute, she should have raised it with her employer or the Govt of India. She didn’t do either. She absconded one morning. This wage dispute case belongs to the Indian courts

3) Due to her disappearance without notice, there was a case filed against her in the New Delhi high court. The US State Department was also duly notified of the same. Devyani tried to file a missing person complaint with the missing persons office of the NYPD, which wouldn’t entertain her case!

4) Reciprocity is the first principle of diplomacy

5) The Indian response has been muted at best. The privileges that have been withdrawn were non-reciprocal ones that shouldn’t have been extended to American diplomats in the first place

6) If India really wants to go after American diplomats’ law-transgressions, the list is a long one. Starting from underpayment (per Indian laws) of Indians employed in American consulates, the hit & run killing of an Indian in Delhi streets (for which India let the American diplomat off the hook), the non-reporting of incomes earned by wives of consular officials in Indian schools etc.

7) US consular officials committed visa fraud for arranging for visas for the maid’s family when there was a pending case against them in India. This is a blatant intervention in India’s judicial system. The US State or Justice departments have no jurisdiction over Indians living in India. India would be well within its rights to conduct “in absentia” trials of both US Justice & State Department officials for visa fraud

8) Cavity searching, as per Indian law, amounts to “custodial rape”. India can, once again, conduct “in absentia” trials of US DOJ marshals

9) The indecent haste with which the maid’s family was shipped out of India, in spite of the State Department being made aware of the cases against them, suggests something more sinister. It wouldn’t be a stretch to suspect that the maid and/or her family were spying on behalf of the US.

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By: trinetra http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/2014/01/08/u-s-india-dispute-a-diplomat-and-a-double-standard-laid-bare/comment-page-1/#comment-1037 Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:29:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india-expertzone/?p=3816#comment-1037 How arresting a US citizen, non diplomatic staff at embassy or Diplomats can put then in physical danger? While arresting, handcuff, strip & cavity search and locking her with violent criminal a consul officer is OK. Is the author not again using double standards? It is right time that so called first world nationals are created the same way in India like Indian are treated in those countries.

Sorry, boat has sailed… we can’t restore the special privileges. If you love burger and beer please buy from us (third world people) and not from burger selling US embassy.

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