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	<title>Comments on: Losing sleep over Apple&#8217;s iPhone 3G</title>
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		<title>By: robinmncool2008</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1457</link>
		<dc:creator>robinmncool2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check this out for my comments http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples_iPhone_3G_gets_hohum_response_in_Poland_and_India/1219424595

2007 estimated per capita ANNUAL income GDP for India is US $937. you still wont want to target a $712 phone at a family even if both the partners made $10000 each a year typing computer code, unless the employer was paying for it

Factor that with the facts that 
* Cheaper "unlocked" phones are available for equivalent of $100 (there is no such thing as an unlocked phone. all phones are made free. its the north american and european operators who lock them to get their customers into their slavery contracts in the free modern world of west)
* no 3G is service available
* the daily lives and the spending profiles are nowhere close to that of the west. (The west should really take their moment and study the indian culture and the mentality of the indian consumer)

and add in these facts
* you would get locked into a phone with high initial cost and monthly bills
* the phone does not offer indian languages probably (yep, ever since the british had a stronghold on india some of the country speaks english very well. even though it is a software powerhouse for most countries of the world in the respective country's local language, availability of local language software in any indian language is almost ZERO)
* the iphone reportedly had a battery that is soldered inside and you need to go back to apple to even have the battery replaced
* you could easily get mugged on the street if the wrong person found out you had an expensive iphone ... OR what if you simply lost or broke it
* why would an indian consumer pay 90cents to apple itunes to purchase an mp3 of a indian song made in india and uploaded to a non indian server, and give 10 cents to the music company? they get their music literally for free &#38; ipods which are cheaper do a good job of playing the music like all other much cheaper mp3 players (i dunno if the costs are the other way around or different, irrespective of the numbers... the question holds) 

Score: 0     By robinmcool2008  edited Aug 27, 2008 - 1:58 PM  

I was not accurate about the battery. thie new 3G iphone does not have a soldered battery but hey ...
* still no slots for adding memory cards like those 8GB micro SDHC or 32GB SDHC cards
* no Java and flash support ... 
* no support for voice dialing? (voice command dialing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check this out for my comments <a href="http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples_iPhone_3G_gets_hohum_response_in_Poland_and_India/1219424595" rel="nofollow">http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples_i Phone_3G_gets_hohum_response_in_Poland_a nd_India/1219424595</a></p>
<p>2007 estimated per capita ANNUAL income GDP for India is US $937. you still wont want to target a $712 phone at a family even if both the partners made $10000 each a year typing computer code, unless the employer was paying for it</p>
<p>Factor that with the facts that<br />
* Cheaper &#8220;unlocked&#8221; phones are available for equivalent of $100 (there is no such thing as an unlocked phone. all phones are made free. its the north american and european operators who lock them to get their customers into their slavery contracts in the free modern world of west)<br />
* no 3G is service available<br />
* the daily lives and the spending profiles are nowhere close to that of the west. (The west should really take their moment and study the indian culture and the mentality of the indian consumer)</p>
<p>and add in these facts<br />
* you would get locked into a phone with high initial cost and monthly bills<br />
* the phone does not offer indian languages probably (yep, ever since the british had a stronghold on india some of the country speaks english very well. even though it is a software powerhouse for most countries of the world in the respective country&#8217;s local language, availability of local language software in any indian language is almost ZERO)<br />
* the iphone reportedly had a battery that is soldered inside and you need to go back to apple to even have the battery replaced<br />
* you could easily get mugged on the street if the wrong person found out you had an expensive iphone &#8230; OR what if you simply lost or broke it<br />
* why would an indian consumer pay 90cents to apple itunes to purchase an mp3 of a indian song made in india and uploaded to a non indian server, and give 10 cents to the music company? they get their music literally for free &amp; ipods which are cheaper do a good job of playing the music like all other much cheaper mp3 players (i dunno if the costs are the other way around or different, irrespective of the numbers&#8230; the question holds) </p>
<p>Score: 0     By robinmcool2008  edited Aug 27, 2008 - 1:58 PM  </p>
<p>I was not accurate about the battery. thie new 3G iphone does not have a soldered battery but hey &#8230;<br />
* still no slots for adding memory cards like those 8GB micro SDHC or 32GB SDHC cards<br />
* no Java and flash support &#8230;<br />
* no support for voice dialing? (voice command dialing)</p>
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		<title>By: Singh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Korea, peoples are crazy about using new Apple products. And here 3G is working in very fast speed. Now people are using Samsung, LG mobiles for 3G phone. If iphone is launch with 800$ may be no one will buy that product. Its really expensive even with 3G. But in India there is no 3G provider. So I think it will be better you buy a ipod touch and a Nokoa mobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Korea, peoples are crazy about using new Apple products. And here 3G is working in very fast speed. Now people are using Samsung, LG mobiles for 3G phone. If iphone is launch with 800$ may be no one will buy that product. Its really expensive even with 3G. But in India there is no 3G provider. So I think it will be better you buy a ipod touch and a Nokoa mobile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the IPhone in the US. It looks terrific. Call quality is poor. Too many dropped calls or incoming calls go straight to voicemail. Data speeds on 3G networks are slow. At times, it takes 30+ minutes for an sms to be received after it is sent. Is it a device issue or a network problem. I returned the device within 2 weeks. Certainly, the device does not live up to the hype. You are not missing much. If you want good voice quality, get a Nokia. If you want an email device, get a BlackBerry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the IPhone in the US. It looks terrific. Call quality is poor. Too many dropped calls or incoming calls go straight to voicemail. Data speeds on 3G networks are slow. At times, it takes 30+ minutes for an sms to be received after it is sent. Is it a device issue or a network problem. I returned the device within 2 weeks. Certainly, the device does not live up to the hype. You are not missing much. If you want good voice quality, get a Nokia. If you want an email device, get a BlackBerry.</p>
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		<title>By: natessan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>natessan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rs.31,000/- is skimming pricing method, the company has adopted. Let us wait for 3 to 6 months to see the price to come down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rs.31,000/- is skimming pricing method, the company has adopted. Let us wait for 3 to 6 months to see the price to come down</p>
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		<title>By: Bharani</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>Bharani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hhaaaaa,

People are going GgGa over the new IPhone...trust be friends, it is definately not worth buying this stupid gadget where most of the options are just options and cannot be used.
Getting one from europe for much lessee price and getting a key for the iphone is not a bad idea.
Thing over it again b4 buying it.
Best thing is to wait and see the real jokers buying it for 30+ INR. It is fun to se them getting BAKRA..:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hhaaaaa,</p>
<p>People are going GgGa over the new IPhone&#8230;trust be friends, it is definately not worth buying this stupid gadget where most of the options are just options and cannot be used.<br />
Getting one from europe for much lessee price and getting a key for the iphone is not a bad idea.<br />
Thing over it again b4 buying it.<br />
Best thing is to wait and see the real jokers buying it for 30+ INR. It is fun to se them getting BAKRA..:)</p>
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		<title>By: kalyan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>kalyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just read the article : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/apple-misled-iphone-users-over-internet-capability-909658.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just read the article : <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/apple-misled-iphone-users-over-internet-capability-909658.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc e/apple-misled-iphone-users-over-interne t-capability-909658.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1426</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the cost of the phone and the huge number of features the phone doesnt have, i think people didnt turn up coz they were not interested in buying it. You get a fully loaded phone for less than half the price with full compatibility. Who then would want to go for the iPhone. 
A lot of featuers like - no video recording, no bluetooth transfer, no zoom, no support for mp3 and many such things that are not available on the phone. 

The new "tube" that nokia is planning to release will be a bigger hit than the iphone.

apple has to do something to cut the cost and also to add or remove some features if it is planning to capitalize any market share in india.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the cost of the phone and the huge number of features the phone doesnt have, i think people didnt turn up coz they were not interested in buying it. You get a fully loaded phone for less than half the price with full compatibility. Who then would want to go for the iPhone.<br />
A lot of featuers like - no video recording, no bluetooth transfer, no zoom, no support for mp3 and many such things that are not available on the phone. </p>
<p>The new &#8220;tube&#8221; that nokia is planning to release will be a bigger hit than the iphone.</p>
<p>apple has to do something to cut the cost and also to add or remove some features if it is planning to capitalize any market share in india.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasir</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When guys can carry Rs 20-25K phone models in colleges in order as a status symbols than there will be lot out there ready to shell out 31k when they know there will be not many doing so.Hence enjoying the exclusivity and leadning the style statement. I personally tried the phone for a long time and then weighed other options and finally settling for a Blackberry. I think Apple will make lot of money from India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When guys can carry Rs 20-25K phone models in colleges in order as a status symbols than there will be lot out there ready to shell out 31k when they know there will be not many doing so.Hence enjoying the exclusivity and leadning the style statement. I personally tried the phone for a long time and then weighed other options and finally settling for a Blackberry. I think Apple will make lot of money from India.</p>
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		<title>By: Shankar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1422</link>
		<dc:creator>Shankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes of course as everyone sd the price really suckssssss.......... Dear Apple Inc. , Let me tell you Indians are not fools.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes of course as everyone sd the price really suckssssss&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Dear Apple Inc. , Let me tell you Indians are not fools&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shankar Raj.J</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2008/08/22/losing-sleep-over-apples-iphone-3g/#comment-1421</link>
		<dc:creator>Shankar Raj.J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iPhone in India would have been worth a buy had the pricing been competitive.  Paying Rs.8000 upfront and the rest in installments of about a Rs.1000 per month for 36 months yes everyone in India would have entertained the idea. As by the end of that timeframe 3G services may be ready in India.  But for a gadget with below par Camera, fixed memory, poor support for media and photosharing its really not worth it.  Who in India uses a advanced mobile for 3 years at a stretch? These gadgets dont even lost that long better buy a LCD TV and watch the advertisement soon it will be Rs.8000/- and your favourite Khans may pose with it to lure you to buy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone in India would have been worth a buy had the pricing been competitive.  Paying Rs.8000 upfront and the rest in installments of about a Rs.1000 per month for 36 months yes everyone in India would have entertained the idea. As by the end of that timeframe 3G services may be ready in India.  But for a gadget with below par Camera, fixed memory, poor support for media and photosharing its really not worth it.  Who in India uses a advanced mobile for 3 years at a stretch? These gadgets dont even lost that long better buy a LCD TV and watch the advertisement soon it will be Rs.8000/- and your favourite Khans may pose with it to lure you to buy one.</p>
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