Comments on: Indian PM’s media coup at Yekaterinburg http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/ Perspectives on South Asian politics Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:03:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7897 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:13:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7897 The reuters folk did not publish my earlier comment. It was a lengthy one but a beautiful summary of Pakistan. But anyways, in brief, Rajeev, don’t you think that you are unduly optimistic based on media reports about Indo Pak talk success by AB/ Nawaz/ Mush/ Singh whereas in realty the result was Kargil conflict, Parliamentary attacks, Mumbai attacks?Basics of Pakistan have not changed so the results should also not change… We can wait, watch and see what would be the result of the US forced dialogue between India and Pakistan.Mumbai attacks killed some people we can say were influential and destroyed property of influential. So a lot of hulla gulla erupted and The entire leadership and media created a war hype. Mukerjee fooling around with “All Options are Open” statement. Singh fooling around with “No Relationship With Pakistan till terrorists are caught and deported to India”.Where are we now? All this proves that the leaders of India as W Chuchill said “Will be men of straw”

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7823 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:38:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7823 Rohit:@Yes MMS and Congress are unfit for the job. History proves so.-But history proves that the closest so far India and Pakistan have come to resolving disputes is during PMs Bajpai and Singh rules through back channel talks. Talks fell due to Musharaf getting entangled in Pakistan internal politics.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7809 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:24:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7809 Rohit:@Yes MMS and Congress are unfit for the job. History proves so.-Thus far the most positive news about Indo-Pak talks is back channel talks, started by PM Bajpai and the issue almost sealed by PM Singh and Musharaf. The talks fell apart because of Pakistani internal political situation. So I do not know how history does not support Singh/Congress on this issue. Correct way to put is that the closest India-Pak have come to solve the disputes is during Singh/Musharaf India-Pak rules.@Alternate can emerge if terrorism is prime issue for every Indian. But for most of Indians the prime issue is ensuring basic needs on a daily basis.–It takes 2 to tango-ndia and Pakistan both. After billion Indians take stand on terrorism, we need Pakistan to cooperate. Practically speaking and for the long-lasting peace, the best scenario will come only when Pakistan realizes that it is in their best interests to get rid off Fassadis bred against India. Anything else will, at best, generate short term solutions. Pakistan is getting closer there way they are cut by the double edged tool against India.We cannot expect Indian democracy and Chinese ruthlessness and efficiency at the same time to take care of the problems. Democracy will take its own sweet time.

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7701 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:24:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7701 @ RajeevYes MMS and Congress are unfit for the job. History proves so.Alternate can emerge if terrorism is prime issue for every Indian. But for most of Indians the prime issue is ensuring basic needs on a daily basis.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7662 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:07:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7662 @Azad: Thanks for the Dawn blog. Nice article backed by supporting references. The problem is the recommendations of many Pakistani intellectuals like those from SDPI Islamabad who prepared a report on the education system of pakistan remain unicorporated.@RohitI agree that there is nothing concrete to celebrate about. But does that mean PM MMS/congree is unfit for the job. If so, who is the alternative PM/party?

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By: Rohit http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7615 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:55:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7615 @ Seething LaneWhat Barrack Obama is doing does not concern topic of discussion nor does it serve as example.”Media Coup” whether it relates to Obama or Manmohan are nothing but “PAID” bloated stories. Indian media as you would have noticed in coverage of Mumbai Attacks, ICL 20 Twenty Cup (Before and After), thrives on feces.For your kind information, not everyone believes Manmohan is a leader. To many he is only another government servant… For me as an individual, Manmohan is only a puppet who cannot think and take independent decisions.It doesn’t matter to any common person of India whether Manmohan does anything or not, walks baby steps of diplomacy or giant steps of diplomacy.Any sane person can tell that he is indulging in forced lame talk which will bring zero result.Did Terrorism stop after Mumbai attacks when Super Personality Manmohan backed by even superior creatures of earth called as Sonia, Priyanka and Rahul did not talk to Pakistan?Will terrorism stop after Super Personality Manmohan backed by even superior creatures of earth called as Sonia, Priyanka and Rahul and some foreign extra superior creatures like Obama, Clinton, Milliband talk to Pakistan?Has terrorism from Pakistan stopped ever since it was initiated?Did India Pak talks of not only super personalty Manmohan but Gods like Gandhi, Nehru, Idira, Rajeev, Narsimha, Sonia, Rahul, Priyanka; less humane persons like Gujral, Chandrashekhar, Hardanhalli, etc and demons like Atal Bihari, LK Advani bring any result?In a nutshell, these acts are hogwash and media wants us to believe that it was some super duper achievement. Indian media and those associated with it are worse than swine flu.

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By: Azad http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7603 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:13:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7603 ……Thus, the above dilemma also sees most celebrity talk show hosts increasingly losing track of the shifting nature of populism. They end up defending the ideological comfort zones that they had built around a preceding phase of populist thought, sounding ‘out of it’ as a result.The above is exactly what has happened on most local TV talk shows and on the op-ed pages of the country’s Urdu newspapers. For example, prior to the showing of the Swat girl flogging video by mainstream TV channels [5], and more so, before the controversial ‘peace deal’ between the government and the Taliban in Swat collapsed, most frontline talk show hosts, Urdu journalists and televangelists had gradually built up a long-winded narrative that explained religious extremism in Pakistan as being an expression against ‘American imperialism’, ‘Zionist conspiracies’, ‘Hindu infiltration’, ‘economic inequality’, and ‘injustice’…………………… ….http://blog.dawn.com:91/dblog/2009  /06/18/on-screen-out-of-touch/BloggersT he Pak scribe, Mr Paracha, emphasizes how the Pak media are confusing the public on a daily basis. Engaging in confidence building measures will be unproductive and futile.

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By: Ashok http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7595 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:42:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7595 @Seething Lane:Media coup?Can the media protect us from terrorists?Why is media quiet about Swiss Bank accounts etc?Media will only look at the way the money/power goes.

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By: Dara http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7594 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:28:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7594 According to an article in the Dawn, “Senators assail Singh’s remarks”, the Pak MOS for foreign affairs has already rejected that its soil could be used for terror attacks against another country. Such a reaction does not really come as a surprise though.Another report on an Indian TV channel talks of Pakistan refusing to hold conditional talks. On the other hand press reports talk of Zardari telling Manmohan Singh that he needs more time. Again this is par for the course.Personally I think that India cannot allow Pakistan to wriggle out of tackling its terror infrastructure and support any longer. The average man in the street will not settle for anything less. I think Manmohan Singh understands that only too well and should not compromise.

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By: Seething Lane http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/06/17/indian-pms-media-coup-at-yekaterinburg/comment-page-1/#comment-7593 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:45:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=1296#comment-7593 @RohitBarack Obama did not change the situation on the ground in Gaza, Afghanistan or Iran with his address to the Muslim world. But it was a start that got (mostly) strong coverage both in the West and the Middle-East. Diplomacy is about baby steps. Singh’s statement in front of the world’s media may not have changed much, or anything, but it conveyed India’s position effectively and got mostly excellent play in the Indian media. It can be seen as a media coup, not a diplomatic coup. Remember, a few months ago the opposition tried to label him India’s weakest ever prime minister.

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