Comments on: Are Muslims of troubled Kashmir treated unfairly by Indians? http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/ Perspectives on South Asian politics Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:03:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: dwijaa http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-12495 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:54:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-12495 Rajeev, you were right in pointing out the fallacy in thought. Its easy to denigrate our security forces but, we’ve to understand that those people live by hours, locking eyeballs with the enemy.
And this goes to the detractors-If you have to raise a din, do it for accountability, do it for better methods of policing, don’t just spew venom on the men in olive green. I think its high time the citizens cooperate with the government- else, if the nefarious designs of the terrorists succeed- they may not have a government to complain against.

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By: Vivek http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-11853 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:01:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11853 You pick any state in India or Pakistan, we will give 10 instances where young man is arrested for lack of evidence, women may be raped by security/police force. It is serious. But it is serious for all states.
So what is the difference. Other state have some development agenda and they are making at least some progress.
The whole issue is that there is no development in JK. It is hilly state, terrain, weather is difficult, so transport will be difficult. Hence, growth will be slower e.g. take example of NE states or Waziristan.

JK People make issue of any small thing and things become complex. There is no solution but to suffer. Even if JK becomes independent, becomes part of Pakistan, they will continue to suffer. There is ONLY hope if they are part of India. Thats it.

Also, after being in discussion for last 60 years (right from 47), it is a matter of pride for every Indian. We may not talk much on NE states etc, which are almost having similar problems, but matter is different for JK. This is beyond political issue, it is a pride issue. I know, this makes it more complex. But thats how it is. Kashmiris have to understand, every Indian have a special place for JK in their heart. We need to hold JK over our dead bodies, period.
Finally, I do agree, there are issues in JK like any other state, but separation is IMPOSSIBLE.
We will go out of our way to help any Kashmiri but it is not true that Indians any way want to hurt Kashmiri. Believe me.

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By: samir http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-11735 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:08:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11735 Mr Rajeev.
Good to know your story. here is one more. Ther is an army camp a little away from our home. Couple of months back ther were several bullet rounds shot at midnight making whole area panic. The next morning we came to know that 2 dogs were killed as they were moving thru bushes near the camp. they bullets were fired by army. i think that is the difference between shoot at sight orders in ur your state and kashmir

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-11707 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:48:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11707 Mr. Sheikh Mushtaq:
Kashmir is no special place, it happens all the time in rest of the country and in all parts of the world. From personal experience I can tell you this happened in Punjab, my Sikh friends and I never complained like you are doing here. I have been witness to the students being picked from hostel in their vest/pajama by 3AM raid (a norm those days) and next day released when confirmed innocent. Nothing personal here by the Police. Rather we appreciated that police has the guts to do so and keep the terrorists on toes. In another incident in 199?, while going to my hostel walking around 12 midnight, I heard someone shouting “hands up” in pitch dark. I could not see anyone and I heard the guy repeat and asked me to move in certain direction and then I saw that the guy who shouted was standing in the dark and was in fact a CRPF Jawan on duty with his AK-47 pointed at me (In those days he had shoot at sight orders). He wanted to clarify what the hell I was doing walking in the campus at that time. Well, we had good10minutes exchange/discussion with my hands on head/no body movement and his hands on the trigger; in the end Jawan is satisfied that I am harmless, both of us are relieved, nothing personal and both of us get back to our respective business.

Try to see the complexities of the situation. Do not think simplistically. It is better to be safe than sorry. Terrorists do not have label on their head. I hate to say please do a favor to Kashmiris by writing both sides of the story.

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By: sam http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-2/#comment-11679 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:30:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11679 its true. There are excesses by indian agencies hat can be seen in the human right articles regarding the state. If the treatment within ur own home by alien forces is so bad how can u expect better hospiatbe atmosphere out of home. Now some may say the article is biased. But so many right abuses cant be biased. this is not the first stuory. its one of the stories

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By: ahtishaan http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-11652 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:03:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11652 i believe that Indian security system like political system is more foe medals rather than teir actual duty… may be because of this race for medals wrong people are indicted many times…. such news of fake encouters and fake arrests are comming up regularly now

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By: sabir http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-11651 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:59:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11651 i think it is partly tru and a little over projected. India as a whole is discriminating Nort east and Kashmir…. There are certain elements that do it…. but alongside many people are ospitable to the effected people

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By: Balbir singh http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-11512 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:03:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11512 Its not like that. I saw one kashmiri muslim youth with jk01 …. no. vehicle broken traffic signal & without accepting his fault, he was just creating scene near ram manohar lohia hospital new delhi with traffic policeman & with a smile that gentle policeman let him go.
I think we all know the seriousness of kashmir but many kashmiri youth are taking unnecessary advantage out of it.

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By: ahtishaan http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-11418 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:42:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11418 Its true that there are extra precautions by Indian security agencies in case of Kashmiri Muslims. Almost everyone has the scare when moving out of kashmir. But Detention of students… reputed personalities… etc… at delhi airport and rly stn has become regular practise. If 26th jan security is national importance then everyone should be checked not kashmiris. i m refering to post saying that kashmiris have to furnish u proof before getting accomodation during national days.

Moreover just like when the police top brass dont miss an oppurtunity to invite a press confrence when they catch a millitant…. same people should be bold enuf to invite a press confrence and apologise people when they catch an innocent man….

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By: Streak http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2009/10/20/are-muslims-of-troubled-kashmir-treated-unfairly-by-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-11417 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:32:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=2124#comment-11417 The part of the story is true…. But i feel that to some extent the people themselves are responsible for the problem. When kashmiris cant stand united on their own soil… its easy to target them out of the state as there is zero chance of unity…

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