Comments on: Of Kashmir’s “staged” killings and south Asian peace process http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/ Perspectives on South Asian politics Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:03:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: KashmirViews http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14161 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:14:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14161 When it comes to solving Kashmir, we should never think that there are only three primary parties to the dispute- Kashmir, Pakistan and India. But another powerful party is Indian army who number around 700,000 and officially and technically are fighting 225 militants plus 300-500 waiting to enter from Pakistan administered Kashmir.
With such a huge militarization and no other alternative offered to civilians to express dissent, human rights violations and killings are bound to occur. Not only this, just recently we saw how a 70-year-old Kashmiri was killed and labeled as Pakistani infiltrator for promotions and medals triggering fears that more than 10,000 youths who disappeared during past 22 years of dispute might have met the same fate and are sleeping under six feet up in the mountains in mass graves.
Adding to the insult are ministers and bureaucrats who are either enjoying holidays at picnic spots or are participating in music programmes on the lake-side when the rest of city and major towns (10 districts) were curfewed this week. These things could only push youth to the wall who are seeking justice but are fired at on heads, abdomens, and torsos. Remember in 2008, almost 1200 youth had received injuries above waist, meaning that Hindu armed forces are directly trying to aim at bodies instead of thinning demonstrators, which a top cop , who was sacked after a youth died, also acknowledged to media as well. He said protests should have been allowed.
The real fear is that if armed forces try to corner cats (Kashmiri youth) it will try to pounce upon them. It is exactly what we have been seeing. The peaceful protests of 2008 were forced to become violent which led to killings of 65 youth and more than 2500 injured.
In city and elsewhere armed forces have continued this trend and in the mountains where media hardly reach and villagers choose to remain silent fake encounters continue happening which makes Kashmir a fitting case of UN intervention in forcing India to repeal draconian laws that protects its soldiers and push for a plebiscite to decide the fate of more than 10 million Kashmiris.

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By: drshugufta http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14040 Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:23:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14040 The fake encounter in kashmir dominated the meetings prime minister Manmohan Singh had with leaders of various political parties here with some of them calling it as a “national shame”.

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By: SZaman88 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14037 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:18:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14037 This Kashmir issue has lingered for too long; now is the time to take a decision according to the sentiments of the local population, so that these injustices done in the Indian held Kashmir can stop.

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By: Seth http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14036 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:53:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14036 They have already suspended the officials and I hope and believe there would be speedy justice in this case.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opini ons/6017749.cms

Such incidents tarnish the image of country and its military and expose that there are problems with the administrative structure and professionalism and MUST be sorted out. Indian government must take stringent and transparent actions. We must get our house in order if we are aspiring to become a better nation.

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By: kEiThZ http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14035 Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:09:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14035 They should push the military forces out to the border and leave the policing and counter-terrorim efforts inside the state entirely to Kashmiris.

You can bet good money that if it comes down to Kashmiris killing Kashmiris that the violence will come to a quick conclusion. Or at least the insurgency would lose lots of support.

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By: KPSingh01 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14034 Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:14:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14034 Militaries in Asia and Africa are brutal. Many act as though they are above the law. A lot needs to be done in terms of training. Soldiers must be taught that human lives are invaluable and human rights need to be respected. The military systems in South Asia still follow the old Turkish/Mughal ways, which the British continued with in the sub-continent. Look at how the Sri Lankan military finished off the Tamil rebels and their supporters recently. There are videos of men paraded naked and shot point blank. A lot of extra-judicial killings go on. Even the police are not much different. It is unfortunate.

I still would not support liberation of Kashmir because some security men killed innocent civilians. I would bring them to justice. Kashmir liberation is a geo-political issue being orchestrated by Pakistan. It will be suicidal for India to allow for Kashmir to separate at this time. US drones are killing civilians while targeting militants. While they preach human rights to others, when it comes to them, they don’t care what the rest of the world thinks about Guantanamo.

I strongly support limiting Indian’s military’s powers in Kashmir and make them accountable. But beyond that, it would be foolish of any Indian administrator to give hopes of independence to Kashmir. If some Kashmir citizens feel they do not like India, they can go to Pakistan, which is a glorious paradise created just for Muslims. We do not want two enemy countries at our border. One is bad enough.

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By: fahad123 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14023 Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:53:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14023 The Indian Prime minister is visiting Kashmir and I hope this time he sets the record straight. Last time he did say that there is no space for human rights abuses in Indian democracy. But not much has changed in Kashmir. The army, police and paramilitary men have been employing unbridled force to muzzle the voice of innocent non-combatant people. Dr Singh, I hope, sets an example by acting tough this time. Let there be rights safeguards guranteed to Kashmiris. Don’t think they are asking for too much. It is a decimal request which should not go unheard and unnoticed.

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By: 007XXX http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14002 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:43:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14002 New Delhi has mishandled Kashmir grossly. If encounters are not fake then forces should provide substantial evidence of the guilt of the killed. Otherwise the guilty in forces should be given draconian punishments for violation of human rights like this. Desperate times need desperate measure.

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By: DaraIndia http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-14001 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:40:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-14001 I think there should be no doubt that the guilty need to be punished and punished soon. The investigations and trials should be expedited. However, don’t hang them before their guilt is established and the facts ascertained. Just because the media says so and some people believe so, doesn’t make it true. We have seen enough of these public trials turning out to be pressure tactics and false propoganda. This in no way denies the problems the people of Kashmir face and that there have been abuses in the region. It is also imperative that just action be taken in this particular incident.

I wish at least one person who blames the Indian Army would at least tell us why the Army is there in the first place. Isn’t it there because there are marauders and militants being pushed into India from across the border? Should we lay out the red carpet from them? Will someone at least admit that the militants are as guilty as they claim the army to be? I bet this will not happen, certainly not on this blog. Not a word about the regular Friday after payers stone throwing ritual and the deaths they cause? Aren’t they beleaguered Kashmiris also?

I also think that those who use the word genocide, including the Mirwaiz, first consult a dictionary.

I, however, quite understand why the Mirwaiz had to involve Pakistan in the so called ‘genocide’. After all who knows more than Pakistan and its Army as to what genocide really is.

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By: 007XXX http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/02/of-kashmirs-staged-killings-and-south-asian-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-13999 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:01:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3315#comment-13999 Kashmir is grossly mishandled by New Delhi specially on encounters issue…If encounters are not fake then evidence of dead men’s guilty should be brought forward otherwise the guilty in forces should be given such severe punishment that no other person in uniform does such a crime and state government should be given such powers to punish guilty (whoever guilty is).

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