Comments on: Killing of civilians fuels Kashmir anger http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/ Perspectives on South Asian politics Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:03:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: SatishChadha http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14192 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:21:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14192 Dear Waleekamil, DRShugufta, Adilmsw, I am not sure whether you represent the voices of Kashmiri in India, of separatists or just harping on false propaganda from across the border? Wherever you are, you are absolutely unaware of the ground realities of J&K. You talk of ‘right to self-determination’ – will you kindly enlighten us about the list of rights at present are not available in J&K and which you want for them in the name of self-determination? While talking of self-determination, kindly list out fundamental rights for self determination even you have wherever you live. Thereafter, compare them with other societies, states and nations in this world.

To my opinion in every social set up we sacrifice some of our personal rights for social order. These sacrifices are at all levels i.e. from individual to family, from family to neighborhood, from neighborhood to community, from community to states, from states to nations and nations to orders governing this beautiful World. Self determination of all rights to my opinion may lead to Jungle Raj. Even as a follower of a particular religion or its teachings we all sacrifice certain rights. Atleast list the practices prohibited by your own religion, whatever it is, to understand rights of self determination you lose by adopting a particular religion.

In India to my opinion, ‘social order’ can be best served by giving people right to vent their feelings in democratic way as long as it does not affect the life and liberty of fellow citizens. This beauty of Indian Constitution has allowed India surviving in a democratic way since its independence and year by year progressing ahead. The entire world recognizes it. Don’t try to fool citizenry of this country or J&K anymore. The silent democratic majority in J&K is well aware of such scandalous behavior and wants peace.
Need in J&K of Army, the laws you describe as draconian is to protect the silent democratic majority from hooligans on streets, from people who indulge in bandhs and disturbing social life in J&K, from people hiding behind the religion and advising others not to look through narrow prism of religion and also from leaders who shout Hurriayat at the pitch of their voice and never represented their credentials in any elections. Few people are denigrating the beautiful teachings of tolerance in Islam and I am ashamed that this is also being done by them in the name of Islam. Heads off to such teachings and preaching to GOI by the people who have never served for democratic values in last over 60 years and brought even the beautiful neighboring country on the brink of collapse in the name of beautiful religion ….. !!!

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By: zargar http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14189 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:03:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14189 the killings continue, two inncocent people were shot dead on friday evening…more tha killings more anger…so put a stopt to it.

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By: KashmirViews http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14183 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:54:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14183 When it comes to solving Kashmir, we should never think that there are only three primary parties to the dispute- Kashmir, Pakistan and India. But another powerful party is Indian army who number around 700,000 and officially is fighting 225 militants inside valley plus 300-500 waiting to enter from Pakistan Administered Kashmir.
With such a huge militarization and no other alternative offered to civilians to express dissent, human rights violations and killings are bound to occur. Not only this, just recently we saw how a 70-year-old Kashmiri was killed and labeled as Pakistani infiltrator for promotions and medals triggering fears that more than 10,000 youths who disappeared during past 22 years of dispute might have met the same fate and are sleeping under six feet up in the mountains in mass graves.
Adding to the insult are ministers and bureaucrats who are either enjoying holidays at picnic spots or are participating in music programmes on the lake-side when the rest of city and major towns (10 districts) were curfewed this week. These things could only push youth to the wall who are seeking justice but are fired at on heads, abdomens, and torsos. Remember in 2008, almost 1200 youth had received injuries above waist, meaning that Hindu armed forces are directly trying to aim at bodies instead of thinning demonstrators, which a top cop , who was sacked after a youth died, also acknowledged to media as well. He said protests should have been allowed.
The real fear is that if armed forces try to corner cat (Kashmiri youth) it will try to pounce upon them. It is exactly what we have been seeing. The peaceful protests of 2008 were forced to become violent which led to killings of 65 youth and injury to more than 2500 youngsters.
In city and elsewhere armed forces have continued this trend and in the mountains where media hardly reach and villagers choose to remain silent, fake encounters continue happening which makes Kashmir a fitting case of UN intervention in forcing India to repeal draconian laws that protects its soldiers and push for a plebiscite to decide the fate of more than 10 million Kashmiris.

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By: kashur123 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14134 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:06:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14134 but i hope Indian tourists who are flocking to Kashmir will understand this and educate fellow citizens about the current situation in Kashmir, and prevail upon Indian authorities to stop human rights violations in Kashmir

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By: kashur123 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14133 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:04:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14133 more killings means more alienation, kashmir is really under siege and we are mourning the deaths. When will India forces understand this. Prime minister talks of zero tolerance and security forces keep on killing people. I wonder if this is by design.

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By: ushiee http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14123 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:41:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14123 its really sad. what i have noticed that the frequency of such incidents increase during summer seasons of valley. does it hold any co-relation?

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By: ahtishaan11 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14122 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:39:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14122 stones are answered with bullets. it seems that no far is the day when another wave of armed uprising will engulf the valley. the government is pushing people back to the point where no option but only AK-47 is left to people of kashmir

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By: emm99 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14121 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:36:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14121 to me it seems like a centrally sponsored scheme to divert the attention of people from the investigations into fake encounter. same has happened. centrally sponsored schemes are efficiently implemented by state government.

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By: true112 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14120 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:33:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14120 it seems like there are no human rights for kashmiris. human rights dont hold any meaning in the dictionary of indian security agencies operating in kashmir valley

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By: RajeevK http://blogs.reuters.com/india/2010/06/17/killing-of-civilians-fuels-kashmir-anger/comment-page-1/#comment-14116 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:56:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/india/?p=3372#comment-14116 Indian security excesses may be true. This does not deny the role of Pakistan in exporting terrorism across the border. Those who say Pakistan morally supports are lying or are ignorant.

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