Comments on: OTUS and the golden age of political reporting Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:54:39 +0000 hourly 1 By: OneOfTheSheep Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:23:04 +0000 @Mazer,

The “…voice though the media and in our government…” that corporations “can control” is but a tiny contemporary fraction of the decision-making ability of the voting age+ American citizen.

We each have a unique perspective developed over time from our “formal education” (which varies in quality and completeness with geography and neighborhood affluence), those who supervise our upbringing (whose abilities, interest and personal perspectives all differ), and our “peers” (whose abilities, interest and personal perspectives all differ). By the time our ears and brain receive a “message”, most of our reaction to same is pre-programmed in a manner no government nor corporation can ever control.

Typically those inclined to deem the most “…worthy pursuit be spreading truth and compassion for your fellow man…” become social workers, charity workers or members of the clergy. There is a reason society chooses to not hear “…the voice of the ignored”. In a time when there is much competition for our attention, why “grant mental audience” to those who can not or will not engage life on a successfully competitive level?

Our society already has programs to help those who cannot help themselves, like the autistic, etc. Why should Americans otherwise indulge those who consciously choose to accept that they “can’t” make their own way in life. They will always be “right” and look to the productive for a free ride. I don’t regard that as a “right” to be encouraged.

No one of voting age in America is “without power” except those who consciously do not exercise that power. For them, there should be no sympathy. By law, they must exist live under “the system” as results from the choices of a majority of the rest at the ballot box. America’s elections, by and large today, are open and honest by any reasonable measure.

Outside of an academic setting, any “…proper conversation about Democracy…” is limited to past experience and present reality. If you believe our “equal society” is not “just” I would agree.

Is there room for improvement? Sure! What is “the answer”? To involve one’s self anywhere and everywhere the opportunity presents to make THIS world a better place for OUR having existed.

It is NOT to complain because perfection has yet to be achieved. Man will NEVER achieve perfection in anything because his own nature is forever in conflict with his more noble aspirations.

Be properly aware and grateful for the incredible progress in the American standard of living in the last hundred years. Try to understand how and why that occurred, and focus your efforts to further improve that on the world of today; because the world of yesterday is not coming back.

By: Mazer Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:33:14 +0000 Yes I agree Democracy requires responsible and informed choices by a majority but how can that happen if corporations can control the voice though the media and in our government. Wouldn’t a more worthy pursuit be spreading truth and compassion for your fellow man rather then becoming annoyied with the voice of the ignored in our society? If the rich can be allowed to game the system without a proper counterweight to power that comes with wealth our Democracy will continue to head toward that Soviet with the furitive down cast eyes that you so describe. No our poor are not truely poor if you compare them with those in the world that don’t even have refrideration but that doesn’t mean the rich can’t still exert dominion with their weath for the purpose to increase it over the backs of those without power. In order to have a proper conversation about Democracy we must seperate the defination of a just society with a equal one.

By: OneOfTheSheep Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:24:15 +0000 @Mazer,

Precisely what led you to the incorrect conclusion that I trust “my political leaders” at all?

Democracy requires responsible and informed choices by a majority. Unfortunately seldom are today’s voters informed and few are wild about the responsibility thing either, even though their choices have consequences, both intended and unintended.

While perfection is a worthy goal, it is an exceedingly poor expectation that delivers only dissatisfaction and disappointment. America today is far from perfect, but it’s far and away the best of the large societies in that a majority of it’s citizens are NOT victims of “the system”.

Those with their heads in the sand are largely the loud and shrill voices that would toss all that we have with no proven plan or strategy. These are NOT leaders and they have NOTHING of substance or merit to offer.

By: Mazer Wed, 28 Dec 2011 12:38:22 +0000 One of the Sheep. It is quite a fitting name for one that refuses to open their eyes. Maybe you’ll listen to a Senator since you trust your polital leaders so much. RI&feature=socblog_ti
Bernie Sanders seems to be one of the few politations that puts his concern of democracy over his bank account.

By: OneOfTheSheep Tue, 27 Dec 2011 07:10:06 +0000 Congratulations on reaching maturity, in age at least.

The wording of your original rant was what led me to my incorrect conclusions in the first and last paragraph. Interesting, that your “reply” ignored the fact that you’re still wrong twice in that rant. Not good for the credibility.

(1) OWS shows that anyone that wants a “voice” has one. It also reaffirmed that voices with nothing to say are increasingly annoying and progressively ignored. (2) I earlier explained why the average American isn’t getting (economically) screwed”.

Neither the “super rich” nor those who live on government checks can unilaterally decide what kind of society we will have (or can afford). Each have to compete for the “hearts and minds” of the other voters, and it’s amazing how quickly and thoroughly citizen interests blend in the significant part of the “bell curve”.

That’s why the “course” of both Democrat and Republican parties are about as consistent in direction and progress as a bicycle ridden by a drunk.

By: scarr34 Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:51:30 +0000 Hey Sheepman…I hate to break it to ya, but I’ve been full-time employed for the last 35 years. Not only that, my income is in the top 5 to 10 percent of wage earners.

I don’t know what wacky parallel universe you live in, but the signs of economic deterioration are all around us. I don’t think either political party is willing to address the issues affecting most Americans. I used to vote Republican because I was a law-abiding gun owner, but I don’t think they really care about it. They just like the Democrats to take the heat on gun control. When business types talk about “worker empowerment” they don’t mean gun ownership. Armed peasants scare the hell out of them. As we used to say back in the 60s…if voting could change the system, it would be illegal.

By the way, I haven’t blown any weed in decades. Nowadays, my recreational drug of choice is alcohol. You should try it. It might help you relax.

By: OneOfTheSheep Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:31:39 +0000 @scarr34,

I sometime wonder where you OWS types originate. It’s obvious you are not nor do you represent “99%”. At most you represent 20%, the “hard-core” dissatisfied, unmotivated, unemployed, unemployable that want $20+/hr. for jobs that anyone not mentally challenged can learn in two weeks or less.

“the People” are NOT getting “screwed”. There is a chicken (or more) in every pot and one or more cars in every garage (that aren’t so full of possessions that there’s no room for a car).

Look around today. America is at the malls, spending like crazy! They don’t have that eyes-down furtive look that was once common in the Soviet Union and similar totalitarian countries. They’re not skinny from too little food…they’re FAT! In this country the poor DRIVE!

But keep smoking what you’re smoking. There’s probably never going to be a job your kind would like.

By: scarr34 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:19:29 +0000 While all this choice and diversity may seem important, we should pause to remember that with both political parties controlled by large corporations and the super-rich (for those who distinguish between the two) the political process is becoming more and more irrelevant for most people. Nobody really cares anymore about the maneuverings and posturings of the Democrats and the Republicans. Either way, the People get screwed and have no voice.