Comments on: The NSA never takes “no” for an answer http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/ Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:54:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Jacob_Spoelstra http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-15266 Fri, 06 Dec 2013 17:23:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-15266 Hello Jack Shafer,

I agree with your opinion on mass storage of unrelated data by the NSA and TIA and also feel that such a violation of privacy is unacceptable. I also feel that there are positive aspects to government surveillance that cannot be ignored and the key is regulation, not abolition of the programs.

Would you mind reading my blog at http://dev.isucomm.iastate.edu/thegreenr oom/jspoelstra/? I would like to have your perspective.

Jacob Spoelstra
jacobs62@iastate.edu
The Green Room at Iowa State University

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By: wolfgangmoses http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-15036 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:59:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-15036 the legitimate intelligence agencies around the world are getting info to protect its citizens from terrorist harm and preserve capitalism and free markets. Innocent people’s lives are being trampled upon.They are murdered. Their lives destroyed by these intelligence efforts. No expense will be spared to win this ongoing battle. Corruption and thuggary are methods to accomplish this.

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By: usagadfly http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-15035 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:47:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-15035 The method for making Government employees who betray their country and their oath of service is well known, widespread and clear. The crime is a felony called *treason* and the penalties are clear. If applied to those who defied the People and the Constitution of the United States, we would need to make executioner a Civil Service position and they would be very busy for a long time.

But to be convicted of treason, you must first have charges brought by the Administrations that promoted these outrages to begin with. And that not only has not happened, it will not happen. That is because law and especially law enforcement is for “little people” and for “show”. They have made a laughingstock of what they swore to defend “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.

So do not swallow that stuff about these people being our “servants”. They are our masters.

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By: p19 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-15034 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:26:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-15034 @binxy. Snowden is one in a million. His co-workers don’t stand up because they’d lose their jobs. Snowden put his future on the line because he is a true patriot, and no doubt sick of all the corruption that goes on in the Obama Administration.

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By: Des3Maisons http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14774 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:18:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14774 Note that the news media is not interviewing any members of Congress on this issue, either that or they are not giving interviews, but the news media hasn’t told us that either. After all, it is the fault of Congress that they haven’t put the skids on the spies. Just where has Congress been all these years? Ohhhhh! I know! They were groveling to Corporate America to get their campaign war chests filled.

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By: bornfreeAmeri http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14772 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:39:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14772 Why no real debate on domestic spying. Reporters are going to soon realize their trusted sources for newsworthy stories have dried up because of the chilling effect spying has on normal political debate. Your e-mail question to your Dr.s office or search engine search about dizziness or blackouts will result in a DMV suspension of YOUR drivers license, nevermind you were looking for answers for your aging father. Oh, an e-mail question to your family lawyer or CPA about figuring your cost basis in a capital gain transaction (ie sale of house) will generate an IRS audit. The Authors of the bill of rights didn’t know about computors and metadata 200 years ago, but they understood goverment misuse of power.

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By: bornfreeAmeri http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14771 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:24:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14771 Domestic spying on its own citizens without fourth amendment protections is just wrong. Period!

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By: BrokenMirrors http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14770 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:45:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14770 The NSA may not accept no for an answer, but the American population and others might say no.

The “War on the Rocks” website has an interesting podcast which looks at the Snowden affair. It contains a strategic/operational and tactical intelligence community damage assessment and compares PRISM to the “total information awareness project” of Admiral Poindexter. It has an intro by Mark Stout of the International Spy Museum.

The podcast also compares the “writs of assistance” issued by King George II in 1760 to the NSA spying on Americans. John Adams (second US president) stated that the “writs of assistance ” by KGII were the spark that lit the fires of the American Revolution. Are we there again?

The podcast is at: warontherocks.com/2013/09/podcast-broken -mirrors-episode-1/
The bit on Snowden etc starts at 26:20

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By: ptiffany http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14766 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:20:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14766 The usual stories from the media as each of these behaviors are “revealed” is to shout, “Surprise!” As this article points out for the umpteenth time is that these behaviors have been well known for decades. Why is anyone surprised or shocked? The intel community calls it the Wink-Wink Program. It’s a decades old program used extensively by the NSA, the FBI, the CIA, Homeland Security, … And, the “oversight” judicial agency, the mock FISA Court rubber-stamps it all.

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By: K.MacKenzie http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/09/06/the-nsa-never-takes-no-for-an-answer/#comment-14764 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:43:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/?p=1912#comment-14764 @Binxy
I believe they’re keeping their heads down, unwilling to abandon their families, brace for the enormous amount of *** slinging hurled at them by the government and to have to live on the run out in Hong Kong/Moscow.

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