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		<title>By: Joan Laconca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Laconca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you say Medicare is free? We are charged $90.00 each a month. It&#039;s taken from our social security</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you say Medicare is free? We are charged $90.00 each a month. It&#8217;s taken from our social security</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so over all of this drama and b/s.  It seems to be never ending and no one seems to care about the people this is all effecting. Who can we trust now?  Our government is spending us into the ground FAST and they want to turn our health care into a socialistic event.  Well no thank you!  Don&#039;t make something new, fix what we&#039;ve got!  

Thankfully I&#039;ve got friends who have referred me to someone I can trust.  I only wish everyone had the same.  Maybe you don&#039;t.. so here&#039;s my contribution to society (while it still stands) www.nationalmedicareservicecenter.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so over all of this drama and b/s.  It seems to be never ending and no one seems to care about the people this is all effecting. Who can we trust now?  Our government is spending us into the ground FAST and they want to turn our health care into a socialistic event.  Well no thank you!  Don&#8217;t make something new, fix what we&#8217;ve got!  </p>
<p>Thankfully I&#8217;ve got friends who have referred me to someone I can trust.  I only wish everyone had the same.  Maybe you don&#8217;t.. so here&#8217;s my contribution to society (while it still stands) <a href='http://www.nationalmedicareservicecenter.com/'>http://www.nationalmedicareservicecenter .com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harrell Matute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrell Matute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To state that Doctors and healthcare suppliers are underpaid by the goverment insurance programs demonstrates ignorance on the issue. the us spends more money per capita than any other country in the world. I assure you that Medicare beneficiaries are not happy with the level or quality of service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To state that Doctors and healthcare suppliers are underpaid by the goverment insurance programs demonstrates ignorance on the issue. the us spends more money per capita than any other country in the world. I assure you that Medicare beneficiaries are not happy with the level or quality of service.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a physician. There is no question that Medicare is the problem. For instance, the fee that medicare paid me in 1989 to remove a rectal cancer was 1800.00(3000.00 in inflation adjusted 2007 dollars). In 2007 the fee that medicare paid was down to 1400.00(in 2007 dollars)! Name one expense for me that has gone down by 50% in those 18 years. Malpractice,rent,salaries,benefits,fuel? My costs then have to shift to patients with insurance other than medicare. Medicaid is a joke; most physicians will not even accept it because it pays about 1/4th of medicare! I do accept it out of altuism only. The system is bankrupt; it would be very dangerous to turn the whole system over to the government. Furthermore the salary that a phsician makes is imaterial to this discussion. I have worked 60-70 hours, 7 days a week for 25 years. This is not a complaint; this is what dedicated physicians do all over this country. Most physicians in the world, work 8 hour shifts with a general loss of professionalism because of socialism and an inability to take care of patients the way they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a physician. There is no question that Medicare is the problem. For instance, the fee that medicare paid me in 1989 to remove a rectal cancer was 1800.00(3000.00 in inflation adjusted 2007 dollars). In 2007 the fee that medicare paid was down to 1400.00(in 2007 dollars)! Name one expense for me that has gone down by 50% in those 18 years. Malpractice,rent,salaries,benefits,fuel? My costs then have to shift to patients with insurance other than medicare. Medicaid is a joke; most physicians will not even accept it because it pays about 1/4th of medicare! I do accept it out of altuism only. The system is bankrupt; it would be very dangerous to turn the whole system over to the government. Furthermore the salary that a phsician makes is imaterial to this discussion. I have worked 60-70 hours, 7 days a week for 25 years. This is not a complaint; this is what dedicated physicians do all over this country. Most physicians in the world, work 8 hour shifts with a general loss of professionalism because of socialism and an inability to take care of patients the way they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedict@Large</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/08/18/why-medicare-is-a-beloved-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Benedict@Large</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do your research. Medicaid and Medicare do not use the same payment schedules. The &quot;fraud&quot; you are talking about—if indeed it is a fraud—occurs on Medicaid because of its significantly lower payment schedule. But many doctors do not accept Medicaid because of this ... and they are free to not do so ... so where is the fraud?

I won&#039;t even get into the fact that medical inflation has been WAY above other inflation for 35 years, so someone is getting filthy rich in the medical field. If it ain&#039;t the doctors, I&#039;d suggest that they start bitching at their business partners instead of trying to continue to jack off the American taxpayer.

Sorry, the only fraud is the myth you&#039;ve apparently swallowed hook, line, and sinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do your research. Medicaid and Medicare do not use the same payment schedules. The &#8220;fraud&#8221; you are talking about—if indeed it is a fraud—occurs on Medicaid because of its significantly lower payment schedule. But many doctors do not accept Medicaid because of this &#8230; and they are free to not do so &#8230; so where is the fraud?</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even get into the fact that medical inflation has been WAY above other inflation for 35 years, so someone is getting filthy rich in the medical field. If it ain&#8217;t the doctors, I&#8217;d suggest that they start bitching at their business partners instead of trying to continue to jack off the American taxpayer.</p>
<p>Sorry, the only fraud is the myth you&#8217;ve apparently swallowed hook, line, and sinker.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here audacious audacity! Ya really know how to write (nearly as well as you think).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here audacious audacity! Ya really know how to write (nearly as well as you think).</p>
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		<title>By: ARTBLUM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARTBLUM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most private insurance payments to providers (doctors and hospitals) are based on medicare rates - and are sometimes below medicare rates - so that family practice docs in private practice are forced out of business by large group practices which can negotiate higher rates from insurers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most private insurance payments to providers (doctors and hospitals) are based on medicare rates &#8211; and are sometimes below medicare rates &#8211; so that family practice docs in private practice are forced out of business by large group practices which can negotiate higher rates from insurers.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO CO-OP&#039;S! A Little History Lesson

Young People. America needs your help.

Our last great economic catastrophe was called the Great Depression. Then as now it was caused by a reckless, and corrupt Republican administration and republican congress. FDR a Democrat, was then elected to save the nation and the American people from the unbridled GREED and profiteering, of the unregulated predatory self-interest of the banking industry and Wallstreet. Just like now.

FDR proposed a Government-run health insurance plan to go with Social Security. To assure all Americans high quality, easily accessible, affordable, National Healthcare security. Regardless of where you lived, worked, or your ability to pay. But the AMA riled against it. Using all manor of scare tactics, like Calling it SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!! :-0

So FDR established thousands of co-op&#039;s around the country in rural America. And all of them failed. The biggest of these co-op organizations would become the grandfather of the predatory monster that all of you know today as the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry. And the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare industry.

This former co-op would grow so powerful that it would corrupt every aspect of healthcare delivery in America. Even corrupting the Government of the United States.

This former co-op&#039;s name is BLUE CROSS/BLUE SHIELD. 

Do you see now why even the suggestion of co-op&#039;s is ridiculous. It makes me so ANGRY! Co-op&#039;s are not a substitute for a government-run public option.

They are trying to pull the wool over our eye&#039;s again. Senator Conrad, if you don&#039;t have the votes now, GET THEM! Or turn them over to us. WE WILL! DEAL WITH THEM. Why do you think we gave your party Control of the House, Control of the Senate, Control of the Whitehouse. The only option on the table that has any chance of fixing our healthcare crisis is a STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION.

An insurance mandate and subsidies without a strong government-run public option choice available on day one would be worse than the healthcare catastrophe we have now. The insurance, and healthcare industry have been very successful at exploiting the good hearts of the American people. But Congress and the president must not let that happen this time. House Progressives and members of the Tri-caucus must continue to hold firm on their demand for a strong Government-run public option.

A healthcare reform bill with mandates and subsidies but without a STRONG government-run public option choice on day one, would be much worse than NO healthcare reform at all. So you must be strong and KILL IT! if you have too. And let the chips fall where they may. You can do insurance reform without mandates, subsidies, or taxpayer expense. Healthcare reform should be 100% for the American people. Not another taxpayer bailout of the private for profit insurance industry, disguised as healthcare reform for the people.

God Bless You

Jacksmith — Working Class

Twitter search #welovetheNHS #NHS Check it out

 (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO CO-OP&#8217;S! A Little History Lesson</p>
<p>Young People. America needs your help.</p>
<p>Our last great economic catastrophe was called the Great Depression. Then as now it was caused by a reckless, and corrupt Republican administration and republican congress. FDR a Democrat, was then elected to save the nation and the American people from the unbridled GREED and profiteering, of the unregulated predatory self-interest of the banking industry and Wallstreet. Just like now.</p>
<p>FDR proposed a Government-run health insurance plan to go with Social Security. To assure all Americans high quality, easily accessible, affordable, National Healthcare security. Regardless of where you lived, worked, or your ability to pay. But the AMA riled against it. Using all manor of scare tactics, like Calling it SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!! :-0</p>
<p>So FDR established thousands of co-op&#8217;s around the country in rural America. And all of them failed. The biggest of these co-op organizations would become the grandfather of the predatory monster that all of you know today as the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT health insurance industry. And the DISGRACEFUL GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT healthcare industry.</p>
<p>This former co-op would grow so powerful that it would corrupt every aspect of healthcare delivery in America. Even corrupting the Government of the United States.</p>
<p>This former co-op&#8217;s name is BLUE CROSS/BLUE SHIELD. </p>
<p>Do you see now why even the suggestion of co-op&#8217;s is ridiculous. It makes me so ANGRY! Co-op&#8217;s are not a substitute for a government-run public option.</p>
<p>They are trying to pull the wool over our eye&#8217;s again. Senator Conrad, if you don&#8217;t have the votes now, GET THEM! Or turn them over to us. WE WILL! DEAL WITH THEM. Why do you think we gave your party Control of the House, Control of the Senate, Control of the Whitehouse. The only option on the table that has any chance of fixing our healthcare crisis is a STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION.</p>
<p>An insurance mandate and subsidies without a strong government-run public option choice available on day one would be worse than the healthcare catastrophe we have now. The insurance, and healthcare industry have been very successful at exploiting the good hearts of the American people. But Congress and the president must not let that happen this time. House Progressives and members of the Tri-caucus must continue to hold firm on their demand for a strong Government-run public option.</p>
<p>A healthcare reform bill with mandates and subsidies but without a STRONG government-run public option choice on day one, would be much worse than NO healthcare reform at all. So you must be strong and KILL IT! if you have too. And let the chips fall where they may. You can do insurance reform without mandates, subsidies, or taxpayer expense. Healthcare reform should be 100% for the American people. Not another taxpayer bailout of the private for profit insurance industry, disguised as healthcare reform for the people.</p>
<p>God Bless You</p>
<p>Jacksmith — Working Class</p>
<p>Twitter search #welovetheNHS #NHS Check it out</p>
<p> (<a href='http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)'>http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0 7/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Evinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy P is correct. 
Most people do not know they pay for Medicare Part B - the part that covers dr bills. It is almost always deducted from their social security check. So it seems free.

Second, I recently checked how much I + my employers paid into Medicare. It was over $150k (+ that is NOT in 2009 dlrs) for me + 80k for my wife. So the govt took $230k from us, plus we must pay $96/mo each for Part B + $44/month each for Part D (drugs) + we need to get a supplemental plan to cover what Medicare does not cover etc - for another $125/mo each. 

So I need to spend approx $275/mo per person for Medicare + about 20% of drs will not take any new Medicare patients bcs of the low reimbursement rates from the govt. 

Here is the kicker: My HSA plan costs me at age 64, $279/mo + allows a $3000 per person tax deduction if we put those funds into an HSA savings acct for future bills.

Now, which system is better? Which gives me more choice? Which is cheaper (don&#039;t forget about the $230k taken from my check + my employers)?

Jimmy P has it 100% correct.Medicare is a fraud + the p/r tax will only rise to pay today&#039;s Medicare beneficicaries with p/r taxes taken from younger people.The system is actuarily a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy P is correct.<br />
Most people do not know they pay for Medicare Part B &#8211; the part that covers dr bills. It is almost always deducted from their social security check. So it seems free.</p>
<p>Second, I recently checked how much I + my employers paid into Medicare. It was over $150k (+ that is NOT in 2009 dlrs) for me + 80k for my wife. So the govt took $230k from us, plus we must pay $96/mo each for Part B + $44/month each for Part D (drugs) + we need to get a supplemental plan to cover what Medicare does not cover etc &#8211; for another $125/mo each. </p>
<p>So I need to spend approx $275/mo per person for Medicare + about 20% of drs will not take any new Medicare patients bcs of the low reimbursement rates from the govt. </p>
<p>Here is the kicker: My HSA plan costs me at age 64, $279/mo + allows a $3000 per person tax deduction if we put those funds into an HSA savings acct for future bills.</p>
<p>Now, which system is better? Which gives me more choice? Which is cheaper (don&#8217;t forget about the $230k taken from my check + my employers)?</p>
<p>Jimmy P has it 100% correct.Medicare is a fraud + the p/r tax will only rise to pay today&#8217;s Medicare beneficicaries with p/r taxes taken from younger people.The system is actuarily a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: DoctorsAre Whiners</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoctorsAre Whiners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be naive

Doctors whine about everything.

They make PLENTY of money on Medicare patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be naive</p>
<p>Doctors whine about everything.</p>
<p>They make PLENTY of money on Medicare patients.</p>
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