Comments on: Is ObamaCare in trouble in the Senate?

By: Angel Scholder

Angel Scholder — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:53:05 +0000

My grown kids think that socialism/communism would be okay. What did I do wrong in raising them? I wonder when they start paying more taxes if it will make any difference to them?They do not seem concerned about the U.S. deficit, they are too wrapped up in their own little worlds and watch the propoganda(?) machines every night.

By: Angel Scholder

Angel Scholder — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:45:55 +0000

Someway and somehow we must not let this bill or any of the future bills Obama wants to pass. If this passes he will have all the power he needs to take over total control of the U.S.A. That is what he wants and will stop at nothing to get his way. If this passes you can kiss any future we all may have had before away!We are a laughing stock to the world right now because we elected this man for president.He is hiring prisoners for his Ameri Corps so he will have the army he thinks he needs to protect him and control us. Remember how East Germany was before the wall came down? Well, that is how we will be if he is not stopped.Wake UP People! PLEASE?

By: Karen

Karen — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:01:14 +0000

What is Medicaid for? I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have health insurance. According to the New England Journal of Medicine Americans pay $752.00 more per year than Canadians. I’d rather have our health care. 12 million people in this country don’t have insurance. Of course, we do have 20 million plus Mexican citizens residing here who have free health care in their own country. Why can’t they go to a health care clinic for non emergencies and pay a nominal fee. ($15.00) Why can’t we cover the 12 million or so with catastrophic insurance? Don’t think you can escape. You can’t. In this bill is a plan to charge American citizens living abroad for this. If they don’t pay it, there will be an excise fee attached to their income tax. There is so much wrong with this bill. Insurance companies can’t be sued for refusing treatment. That’s in the bill. Imagine that! Somehow this is about putting money in someone’s pockets. If this passes we’ll all be saving our money to fly to India for surgery. That’s where our doctors will go unless of course our Nazi govt. makes it a federal crime for them to leave. Nothing would surprise me.

By: David Weidner

David Weidner — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:55:14 +0000

The naked item that they want = Healthcare providers (Doctors, nurses, hospitals, etc) working for them, at the price they want to pay them, for the services they want from them – It’s a beautiful thing to get what you want from someone else, b/c you can make them toe your line – Yea – That approach will bend the cost curve in time, but yuk – Next it will be the bankers/accountants working for them – Last, though, if ever, will be the lawyers working for them

By: John D. Froelich

John D. Froelich — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:51:44 +0000

The individual mandate on insurqnce is obviously Unconstitutional at the Federal level, yet they seem to hve no fallback position,

By: Keith Mazikowski

Keith Mazikowski — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:45:16 +0000

The ObamaCare proposal in its current form should be DOA. With America’s talent, intelligence, research and development of medicines, Healthcare should be a growth industry. This legislation curtails it. The competitive free market will advance medical discoveries far better than government can even imagine.

By: JIm Gitlin

JIm Gitlin — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:22:51 +0000

Most politicians never read a bill, they have an aide read it and give them a summary. How do you summarize a bill like this that is 1990 pages long? You can’t. This is why we need to encourage our politicians to read everything that they sign into law. This is the job we elected them to do. They need to remember they serve the people, not the other way around. Our country was founded to alleviate excessive government control, yet 233 years later we have the same thing with the Patriot Act that trampled all over The Constitution and now we are passing socialized medicine. “Socialized” medicine, meaning government controlled. Didn’t we go to war and lose a lot of good Americns fighting socialism, yet now we embrace it? Since the Patriot Act took away freedom of speech, I think I’ll stop here before I get labeled a “domestic terrorist” when just a few years ago I would have been considered a patriot.There is a grassroots non-partisan movement in California encouraging politicians to actually read the bills before signing them, in other words, do their job. If you agree with this and would like more information, visit their website. http://www.HonorInOffice.org

By: GlennO

GlennO — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:09:23 +0000

The comparison of American Healthcare quality and available services to Euro, Canadian, etc national healthcare or even privately funded HC always, as the comments here attest, skip the crucial fact:There is very little Specialized Care outside of the US available, nor is there the research for Specialized Care and Medicins ongoing because there is NO ONE to pay for them.Nationalized healthcare does not have the funds for unique and specialized care practices. They barely, if at all, provide people with General Practicioner Care.The survival rate for Cancer, once diagnosed in the US, is nearly 40% higher than Europe and Canada. Most people who can afford to come to the US to get Proton / Cancer treatment because it is not available in Euro/Can and around the world.Same/similar story for Cardiovascular Disease (CVD).CVD and Cancer are the two leading causes of death in the US and are the result of our lifestyles, not available care.You have to imagine the impact of Obamacare on the loss of Specialized care in the US.And then realize that we are going to see a decline in the ranks of our Doctors who, for the most part, oppose this nationalization of our health… and our liberty.Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors’ own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.———-More than seven in 10 doctors, or 71% — the most lopsided response in the poll — answered “no” when asked if they believed “the government can cover 47 million more people and that it will cost less money and the quality of care will be better.”———-Recent population growth has been 1% a year. Patients, in short, are already being added faster than physicians, creating a medical bottleneck.The great concern is that, with increased mandates, lower pay and less freedom to practice, doctors could abandon medicine in droves, as the IBD/TIPP Poll suggests. Under the proposed medical overhaul, an additional 47 million people would have to be cared for — an 18% increase in patient loads, without an equivalent increase in doctors. The actual effect could be somewhat less because a significant share of the uninsured already get care.Even so, the government vows to cut hundreds of billions of dollars from health care spending to pay for reform, which would encourage a flight from the profession.The U.S. today has just 2.4 physicians per 1,000 population — below the median of 3.1 for members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the official club of wealthy nations.

By: JohnR

JohnR — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:11:28 +0000

We don’t have a Health Care crisis in this country; we have a Health Cost crisis. We spend three times per capita what Europe spends and the future unfunded liabilities for Medicare alone are $100T (that’s trillion). I will support any proposal (including Single Payer) that cuts out spending by 2/3. Problem is, it’s not possible. NO way pols will EVER cut spending by such amounts because the voters would hunt them down with pitchforks. That’s why I reject Obamacare; it will NOT bend the cost curve. It’s the mother of all entitlement programs and will EXPLODE the national debt in 5-10 years. Incremental Health Cost reform, yes! Obamacare, No!

By: waltonr

waltonr — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:36:35 +0000

Tom Coburn has threatened to have the entire 2000 page bill read on the floor of the Senate. Not a bad idea.I doubt that most senators have reviewed the bill in its entirety. I’m certain that most representatives haven’t.Our elected officials employ staffs to read this type of material The staff summarizes it’s important points and areas of concern to the official’s constituency, etc.