Comments on: Secret GOP plan: Push states to declare bankruptcy and smash unions http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/ Politics and policy from inside Washington Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:57:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Retalliouns http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-11014 Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:32:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-11014 “Here, the ‘take’ for public-employee union entitlements is projected to DOUBLE in 5 years, and it is already HIGH! The old contracts MUST be broken.”

I’d love to know where this garbage came from – do you even have any evidence to back this assertion up? I think not. In fact, don’t bother – by actually showing you the errors used in cherry-picking such an arbitrary figure, I’d just upset you and you clearly aren’t likely to be changing your mind based on the facts.

“Look at the gulf that is widening between public and private sector jobs. This has to stop. It is unsustainable.”

Look to the gulf that is widening between the personal tax burden and concentration of wealth into the polutocratic top 2% in the USA. THAT is what is unsustainable.

“Sounds like a good plan as far as this Red Stater is concerned because we can see the Blue States circling the drain and we know what’s next…federal handout. The liberal test beds have run their economies into the ground. They shouldn’t expect flyover country to bail out their bad policies. Did you see the way CA voted in the last election for heaven’s sake? These people are clueless…drop the guillotine.”

Take a look at how much your ‘red state’ gets in Federal funding vs. the ‘blue states’ – or should I say, engines of the economy, and then edit out your outrageous comments about blue states needing federal handouts. Red states are generally the highest recipients and lowest contributors to Federal funds – and oddly enough its exactly those welfare states that hold the strongest views on these issues. Don’t kill your golden goose.

for more information here is a good place to start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_spe nding_and_taxation_across_states


The American Dream used to be that you can build a life from scratch here, that you can come here with nothing and end up with a business, a house, even wealth that you can leave to the next generation.

Guaranteed wages and social security for some mean less opportunity for the rest of us. That is why I left Europe; I saw that I was going to have to pay for the babyboomers retirements and healthcare for the rest of my life. America is now worse than Europe.

Home values should fall! They are inflated. The entire Obama agenda is about keeping the bubbles inflated, bailing out the rich, the babyboomers, the too big to fail companies, union/government workers.
– Posted by peterverkooijen”

So you swallowed the conservative agenda hook, line and sinker, then you found out that it’s exactly the same over here, in a country where all they’ve managed to achieve is a quarter of the population without health care – and yet you are still unable to admit this ideology is fundamentally flawed.

Why are you blaming public and union workers for something as functionally disconnected as prices in the housing market?? Since Unionized and public workers together account for less than 7% of the United States’ work force, and under 33% of them are unionized. It doesn’t seem that the influence they could exert on the market could be the reason for high property prices.

The republican party and their allies are playing a negative-sum game in order to win. The problem is, they will destroy their prize by playing this way.

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By: hm2viking http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10804 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:36:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10804 I am a nurse for a federal agency. I make exactly on par what a nurse makes in the “efficient” private sector. (Benefits, leave and salary…)

As a MN state employee retiree I assure you that my pension has been jointly funded as part of my compensation package throughout my 26 years of employment. (I contributed 5% out of salary which was essentially matched by my employer as part of my compensation package.)

Most public employees have college degrees vs only about 35% in the private sector. Wages for public employees are on average 4% lower than comparable private sector jobs with comparable KSA’s.

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By: FrankBlank http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10498 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:02:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10498 All the folks who are complaining about the pay of government workers should be forced to pay for their own services. Pothole in their street? Let them negotiate the price with Jimmy’s Paving. House burgled? Let them call Blackwater. House burning? Let them call Evian. Having a heart attack on the street? Let them call a cab. Shafted by Wall Street? Let them pay a PI 300 a day. Hmmm, Wall Street, hmm, Orange County 1994, hmmm, broke… why do those words fit together so well — nah, it couldn’t be, it must be the unions.

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By: FrankBlank http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10497 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:47:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10497 This is all part of the republican’s single goal, consistent since 1980, to transfer the country’s wealth and income to the top 10-15%. Eliminating unions is an important step in that direction, for it will, as wmsblib55 correctly states, lower the wage rate throughout the workforce. And because she is so right, I am quoting her post:

From wmslib55:
How many of you would consider yourself poor? Work 2-3 jobs? Because that is what I have to do just to survive as a single woman. Minimum wage did not go up for 8 years under the Bush administration. How many of you make under 20,000 dollars a year? How many do a great job to get a yearly 3 percent raise? Don’t think that smashing the unions will increase the pay rate of non union workers. It will just be a reason to lower rates overall. And anyone who doesn’t understand that decreasing wages is going to affect all business shouldn’t be in business at all and probably won’t be for long. Obama is doing his best to keep the economy ‘wheel’ rolling. Because if it stops….we’re all in trouble. As a political layman even I understand that. I wish people would quit thinking about what is good for a political party and start thinking about what is good for the American people as a whole.
End quote.

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By: Effie http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10468 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:05:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10468 BOYCOTT GREEK RESTAURANTS.

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By: Effie http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10467 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:04:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10467 Republicans are the most deceitful, destructive people
in this nation they like to call a “democracy” when it is time to call other people’s sons and daughters to fight their ungodly wars.

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By: Effie http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10466 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:02:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10466 Republicans are the most deceitful, destructive people
in this nation they like to call a “democracy” when it is time to call other people’s sons and daughters to fight their ungodly wars.

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By: Effie http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10465 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:57:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10465 Boycott Republican Newspapers, Businesses, Restaurants,
Trash Mouthed TV Commentators, etc. This theft from the
common man must stop now.

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By: Effie http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10464 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:55:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10464 It is not union slaves who have been bankrupting States, it is Agency Heads who receive salaries of $250,000 to $300,000 per year and then retire at 85%-100% of their outrageous salaries. These folks and other high paid
government workers, like Judges and Department Managers,
should receive no more than the median wage income in the Counties where they serve.

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By: AstroPinion http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/12/07/secret-gop-plan-push-states-to-declare-bankruptcy-and-smash-unions/comment-page-2/#comment-10451 Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:40:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/?p=5250#comment-10451 Hello,

According to Professor Myron Hulen from CSU’s College of Business, the average monthly Colorado PERA retirement benefit is $2,772. I should add that each retiree bears the bulk of health care premiums.

From “Bad news for [Colorado] PERA” http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_147 49919

Respectfully,
Astro

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