Comments on: It’s not just McKinsey suggesting Obamacare is a mess

By: Ameriderp

Ameriderp — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:30:38 +0000

when the “worlds greatest” nation fails to provide medical care for its most needy and they are forced to something similar to this: www DOT guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/21/verone- one-dollar-robbery-healthcare, just to get basic medical care. you really need to consider what is wrong with your country.

This heathbill can only spell good for America and should be heralded as a genuine change for the better, advancing medical care and taking money away from Corporations who aren’t looking out for your interests (ie health), only their profits.

The right wing media (read Bill O’Reilly, FOX etc) would like to make you believe this is bad, but really, open your damn eyes… Countries in Europe have a healthy balance of State and Private medical care, why doesnt the US?

By: KHG

KHG — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:04:18 +0000

remember liberals use the S I N tactic when debating

Switch the subject

Ignore the facts

Name calling

By: KHG

KHG — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 23:01:26 +0000

I will make a guess about the PRO Obamacare supporters. They are employed by the government or a union employee. They just want to protect their FREE health insurance. My insurance increase 900 dollars this year along with a 3000 deductable. So where is my savings ?? The issue with high premiums is the states limit who can sell insurance and most states have few choices. Laws do not allow groups (like realtors) to pool together to get a group rate. And why would anybody trust a unread 2000 page bill passed by congress. If Obamacare was so great then why did the members of congress exempt themselves from participation? Someone answer that question !!!

By: Nikso

Nikso — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:21:48 +0000

Wow Wisco- jump on the one word of Heritage foudation huh? I guess Price Waterhouse and the CBO is also tainted as well- and we all know all the democratic groups and foundations are on the up and up.

Also when does the statute of limitations run out on balming bush for everything? Just curious?

By: Nikso

Nikso — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:17:38 +0000

Same story- family of 4- EPO-

2009- $1,200 $5K deductible
2010- $1,415 $5K deductible
2011- $1,650 $7.5K dedcuible

Now yes idiot in chief did say the costs would go up in the short term, but 2012 will be over $2k a month as a premium?

And these so called 30 million additional people that will be added to the rolls of healthcare thanks to this wonderful plan- how is the system going to absorb them? Doctors, clinics, nurses, beds, hospitals? Just curious or will that be magic?

By: liberty59

liberty59 — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:03:46 +0000

“Republicans/Conservatives have dominated US politics (White House & Congress) for more than 2/3 of the last 40 years, and in that time we’ve seen the US rankings for healthcare, education and lifespan sink from top 5 in the world to below 20 in all those categories. It’s not working, and Obama is the only one with the balls and the brains to make any significant progress in the last 40 years– let him fix it.”

Seriously? What are you smoking? What a misleading statement this is. The House controls spending. Before the 2010 elections, Democrats had controlled the House for 38 out of the past 50 years. Dem’s also controlled the Senate for 37 out of the past 53 years.

By: MoBill

MoBill — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:33:49 +0000

Lol!! The liberal posts above are making this article a GOP conspiracy?? These are McKinsey and PWC studies. You don’t get much better and skilled analysis than from these two firms. You guys are flying blind.

By: commonsense10

commonsense10 — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:31:38 +0000

Those 30 percent of employers who think it best to drop ESI and pay the fine should consider another option. What most employers don’t understand is that current US tax code allows employers to pay the employee for healthcare without the employer buying insurance and letting the employee purchase their own policy. A group called Lyfebank has figured a way to do this within the current tax structure avoiding tax. Additionally, family members or part time workers may pool money from each job to buy health insurance from these employee-owned accounts.

By: gooms

gooms — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:29:14 +0000

To all the libs on here defending the President and ObamaCare: Defend this:

I pay out of pocket for my child’s healthcare policy through Group Health. He has the best plan they had to offer. It was only $200 a month with only a $1,000 deductible before ObamaCare passed.

it has risen three times in premium cost since then to $260. The deductible has gone up form $1,000 to $1,750.

And every time a letter sent to me said the increase was because of the new “Affordable Care Act” (ObamaCare).

now, come July 2011, my “child-only” policy will be eliminated. the letter sent to me explained it was because of limitations and costs associated with “the Affordable Care Act’ (Irony alert!).

I am not alone. 20 states have now stopped selling “child-only” policies.

In order to get a new policy from them, I have to get my own policy and include my son as a dependent child. Cost? $820 for the both of us.

That being said, since there is no way I can afford that, as of next month, my child will be uninsured.

The president said “if you have an insurance policy you like, you can keep it”. Was that a lie?

Can you see why I do not believe him?

Can you see why I am pissed off at this “ObamaCare” bill?

How would you feel if because of this bill, your kid was no longer insured/

By: dwhilgen

dwhilgen — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:08:53 +0000

Obama and Democrats rammed Obamacare down the throats of the American people. Tort reform? Obama didn’t want that. Buy insurance across state line? Obama didn’t want that. Listen to Republican ideas? No way. And it goes on and on. Most innovations and advances in health care (treatments and prescription drugs) originate in the US. This adds to our overall health care spending as a percentage of GDP. Many countries get a free ride on these innovations, thereby lowering their overall spending as a percentage of GDP. Relative comparisons don’t necessarily compute!