Comments on: A constitutional amendment to take Big Money out of politics dies quietly http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/ Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:41:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: cabeachguy http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-188 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:20:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-188 I don’t see this situation changing until there is a really serious altering of the financial landscape. It would only take one really filthy rich magnate to upon his death have his will establish a foundation or PAC with an endowment of 50 billion dollars and instructions that the money go towards Democratic, Independent or Occupy candidates.

If one party was instantly faced with the prospect that an opposing party had an outsized advantage you would see immediate legislation to change the system.

So, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Sheldon Adelson, Mark Zuckerberg, et al, if you really want to leave a living legacy, create the circumstances that will forever alter the money-go-round that has politicians constantly at the trough serving themselves instead of their constituents.

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By: Jim Gaines http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-187 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:34:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-187 You’re right about Citizens United. Sorry if I was unclear. I’m no expert on the Fairness Doctrine, but from the account in Wikipedia the FCC’s reversal was pretty contentious.

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By: Sewblon http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-186 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:20:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-186 Please forgive me if my understanding of the law is entirely inaccurate. However, I was under the impression that the rule the supreme court handed down about campaign finance reform was that corporations, for profit or otherwise, cannot donate money to the campaigns of candidates for public office, but they can spend as much money as they want on their own political speech. This article makes it sound like corporations can make campaign contributions, which I understood to categorically not be the case until now. About the fairness doctrine, didn’t the FEC voluntarily remove the fairness doctrine because they believed it was no longer necessary?

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By: michaelryan http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-185 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:32:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-185 Thanks Jim.. Good article.. tangled situation…

The USA has a constitutional birth defect. Freedom of speech was about individuals being able to say what they think without getting thrown in jail. Court rulings have twisted it so far out of context that money is now speech and corporations are people.

However, there is no going back. Like a person that has learned to run with one leg shorter than the other,, there are tendons, muscles and etc that now work a certain way. Surgery would end up crippling the patient/corporate power structure. Corporations and conservatives will never let the problem be fixed.

End result – shortened patient life.

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By: YKLWEF http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-184 Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:07:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-184 The author is in dream-land if he thinks that laws or Constitutional Amendments will solve anything. The only way to stop undue influence by big money players is to strip Congress of its unconstitutional powers. If there’s nothing to buy, no money will flow to buy it. But as long as Congress has vast favors to dole out, corrupting money will flow, as sure as the sun rises.

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By: carnivalchaos http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-183 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:27:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-183 Jim Gaines: Thank you for your attention to this critical issue. Please continue beating this drum ceaselessly. If we had more like Bernie Sanders in our government the American people would be far better off. To accomplish that we will need more journalists like you, focusing on facts Americans need to know to successfully navigate their lives.

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By: JPHR http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-182 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:16:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-182 And this thoroughly corrupted political system uses the pretext of democracy to meddle in the Ukraine using the CIA affiliated ‘NGO’ like the National Endowment for Democracy NED to effect ‘Regime Change’. Start cleaning up your own house first.

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By: carnivalchaos http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-181 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:02:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-181 Factoidz: Unless you’re prepared to argue that democracies don’t exist, the US IS a democracy. A Republic is a type of democracy, a constitutional representative democracy. It’s not a pure democracy. I don’t believe there’s a single “pure” democracy on the planet, but that doesn’t mean democracy doesn’t exist. Don’t get tangled up in syntax. If we define democracy as meaning a state that practices a form of democracy, then we’re a democracy. That’s what people mean when they refer to the US, or Canada, or France, as a democracy. That’s what George W. Bush was suggesting when he argued that he wanted to spread democracy to the Middle East (a failed enterprise.)

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By: carnivalchaos http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-180 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:50:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-180 This is the defining issue of our times, far more pressing than either terrorism or the economy. The article title’s verb and modifier are quite telling: “dies quietly.” The news media, if doing its job responsibly, would be all over this story. But as usual, just a tiny percentage of Americans will be made aware of this little known tragedy. This is how the corporately owned media keeps their useful status quo.

We should all be incensed over the way our nation’s democratic principles have been neutered under the guise of free market capitalism, presented in a way that argues that any attempt to change the current plutocracy is in direct conflict with our Constitution and the very soul of America, which is absolute rubbish. But we’ve fallen for it.

If patriotism retains any meaning at all for Americans, nothing matters but the reestablishing of our representative democracy. We must get the money out of our politics. We must get the money out of our elections. Do not vote for ANY politician who doesn’t present a plan to end corruption in our government.

And after that, we must devise a proper and standardized way of determining state congressional districts, while banning gerrymandering. Enough is enough.

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By: zeke_voltage http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/12/nearly-80-percent-of-americans-want-it-but-their-chance-of-getting-it-just-took-another-hit/#comment-179 Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:29:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=33#comment-179 We are now ruled by corporations. They allow us to keep the idea of states and countries simply for our mental scaffolds to stay intact. We pledge our lives to working for corporations. Our sports teams are owned and promoted by corporations. Our “national” decisions are made by corporations. Our sense of “national” pride is brought to you by corporations at half-time. When we vote, we are voting people promoted, owned, and controlled by corporations. Our economy hinges on the profit generation of corporations. When corporations are about to fail, the government – which is run by corporations, bail the failing corporations out of trouble. Get your minds wrapped around it folks. This amendment failed because of corporations. Why would they undermine their own power? My recommendation: buy stocks.

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