Comments on: One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why? http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/ Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:41:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: RepublicNow http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-355 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:50:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-355 In Siskiyou County, CA last June, 44.12% voted in favor of a Constitutional Republic!

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By: Jim Gaines http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-331 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:47:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-331 Here’s to common ground, ReverendMik

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By: ReverendMik http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-329 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:29:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-329 The amount of “us vs. them” arguments in these comments shows one major reason that there are so many interested in seceding – and the major reason why it won’t work. Each of the commenters is pointing to some subset of the population as a good reason to secede, i.e., to get rid of “them”. I see people sniping at the poor, at different political groups, the wealthy “powerhouses”, etc. What none of you seem to realize that you, too, are one of “them” in the eyes of someone else. The United States of America has been fractured into so many different and shifting factions, secession seems inevitable, but none of those factions are actually geographic. So what, we each decide which roving band of compatriots we will be “citizens” of, even while mixing with the other factions at work, our neighborhoods or apartment buildings, the grocery store and restaurants? None of these factions have enough individual coherence to succeed at secession. Not a single one of us can claim to be exclusively of one faction or another, because they overlap. The only way to make these factions separate is to be so specific as to be ridiculous. Will one state be the “White Episcopalians with Teaching Credentials” and another be “Lesbian Moms owning a Toyota vehicle”? That’s why secession is inevitable, and a catastrophe waiting to happen: you all find reasons why you are different from “those” people, and can’t find common ground. And without common ground, you might as well be standing in quicksand.

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By: jrj906202 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-328 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:18:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-328 Kind of strange,that poorer people would want to succeed.They are the ones taking advantage of big govt.Maybe,depends on what type govt they are leaving.I would guess,here in California,the welfare state,that the poor love govt and wouldn’t want to succeed.

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By: Overcast451 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-326 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:21:59 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-326 *So I don’t see a strong commitment to our country’s legal system.*

Well – indeed, and that starts at the top. It’s clear the the Federal Government ignores the rule of law; the NSA and it’s spying proves this. Once the government doesn’t see the need to follow the ‘rule of law’ – then why should the people?

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By: BarefootScholar http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-325 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:21:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-325 Mmmmm, secession talk sure is fun, isn’t it? I love all the ignorant partisan hatred it brings out, not to mention the rampant denigration of states by myopic people who likely have never lived there. I am from Texas. I don’t own a gun. I think the idea of secession is stupid. However, to those of you alleging that if Texas were to secede (for the sake of discussion) it would fail miserably, think again. It is one of the only states with a real shot at doing so. It has many agricultural products with cotton, rice, soy, corn, vegetables and fruits. Its history is in cattle ranching. There is also plenty of other animal husbandry as well. It would instantly be an exporter of energy and natural gas, and it contains roughly 40 percent of the nation’s refining capacity(this fact alone is why the federal gov’t would NEVER let us-read: buy us off or invade- secede anyway) and vast oilfields to supply them. It has a lengthy coastline with 5 ports, two of which are deepwater capable. It has vast forests in the east for timber. It has a great many citizens who carry generations worth of ingrained independence who would put their heads down and go to work at making it work.

All of this is idle speculation, and borders on the silly, yet I felt compelled to point this out in light of all the Texas bashing going on here. I did not vote for Ted Cruz, but politics aside his constant disturbance of the Washington insiders embodies the spirit of that ingrained independence I was talking about. Trash us all you want, but I invite you to check out the droves of people moving here by the week. The low cost of living and healthy job market apparently means something to someone. I invite all of you haters to come spend some time down here. Most people here are friendly and helpful to their neighbors. Spend some quality time here and then revisit your opinions and base them on actual experience. If you end up 30 miles north of Houston, you might even run into me. I barbecue on Saturdays-something else we know something about. Peace!

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By: MBogus77 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-324 Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:34:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-324 The comments here are hilarious and unabashedly biased toward liberal thinking. If we had most of the commentators posting in the 18th century, most of you would be defending King George and Parliment. The fact of the matter is that the federal government has, and particularly under the current administration, overreached.

It’s only the constant voices of dissent and displeasure that have kept this overreach from becoming a blatant grab for power. Anti-government sentiment doesn’t grow from thin air, but expands across a populace with every indiscretion and injustice a government commits against it’s people. Especially when government does what it’s not supposed to do to us (force us buy insurance under penalty), and won’t do what it’s supposed to do for us (allowing illegal immigrants in by the train load). The mid-term elections will be the first battle in a long war to restore this nation to the one I remember and love.

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By: Steve-0 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-323 Tue, 23 Sep 2014 20:14:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-323 “The United States hardly seems to be on the verge of fracture, and the small secession movements in a handful of American states today represent a tiny percentage of those polled by Reuters.”

I hardly believe 25% of the population to be insignificant but hey, we writers aren’t supposed to be all good with mathy stuff.

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By: sarkozyrocks http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-322 Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:48:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-322 We’re all naturally drawn to others who share our culture and opinions. When an all-powerful, inept, and corrupt central government forces us into an “arranged marriage” with people whose opinions and cultures we abhor, sparks are going to fly…if not outright hate. The hateful comments in this section are proof of it. Why live in hate? Why not allow self-determination for Americans? Purpose of the United Nations: Article 1: Paragraph 2: …respect for equal rights and the self-determination of peoples”. Does this mean we respect self-determination for everyone except the people WE want to control? This doesn’t apply to the US? Jefferson’s wisdom is really coming to light in our Balkanizing world. States rights / local self-determination are key to peaceful coexistence.

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By: Yaakovweeeeeee http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/#comment-319 Tue, 23 Sep 2014 04:26:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/?p=44#comment-319 The message is that we are a country divided. The media doesn’t care. For many of us, the fact of disenfranchisement means no clear options. So we don’t do anything. But if there is an option that looks viable, we will act.

Bear in mind that only 34% believe that is immoral to break the law. That means that 66% believe that they should break the law if they believe the law is immoral. And most of us believe that some of the laws are immoral. So I don’t see a strong commitment to our country’s legal system. Even our first lady said that she was ashamed of our country. If she feels that way. How about the 45% who don’t vote. How do they feel?

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