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	<title>Comments on: Julian Assange&#8217;s fall from the heavens</title>
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		<title>By: mikek53</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>mikek53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw Assange as a hero, but as an American, I am a bit put off by any bland anti anything. I don&#039;t know what Assange has against my country, but I understand why Arabs do. Asians also. Africans, forget about it. My security was not treatened by anything Assange did, or Private Manning for that matter. That government lies can be exposed and the expose&#039; prosecuted, I don&#039;t like. If he raped someone, he deserves to be held accountable. That he shared some secrets that embarrassed my country, Bravo, those are secrets that needed to be told. No Americans died because of it. It was embarrassing to a Republican president that had been lying to Americans for years. It seems like there are large, huge even, financial interests that don&#039;t like him. That means he&#039;s probably on most of our sides, as the 1% would never admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw Assange as a hero, but as an American, I am a bit put off by any bland anti anything. I don&#8217;t know what Assange has against my country, but I understand why Arabs do. Asians also. Africans, forget about it. My security was not treatened by anything Assange did, or Private Manning for that matter. That government lies can be exposed and the expose&#8217; prosecuted, I don&#8217;t like. If he raped someone, he deserves to be held accountable. That he shared some secrets that embarrassed my country, Bravo, those are secrets that needed to be told. No Americans died because of it. It was embarrassing to a Republican president that had been lying to Americans for years. It seems like there are large, huge even, financial interests that don&#8217;t like him. That means he&#8217;s probably on most of our sides, as the 1% would never admit.</p>
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		<title>By: Shukla</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>Shukla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe this bloke is the director of journalism. There is not one comment which is not lambasting the BS that this chut has written.
How does somebody like this become the director of journalism?

Sure makes me think ANYTHING is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe this bloke is the director of journalism. There is not one comment which is not lambasting the BS that this chut has written.<br />
How does somebody like this become the director of journalism?</p>
<p>Sure makes me think ANYTHING is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Shukla</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-801</link>
		<dc:creator>Shukla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john loyd, do you have an iq of 50? or are you so completely indoctrinated you can&#039;t tell the truth from fiction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john loyd, do you have an iq of 50? or are you so completely indoctrinated you can&#8217;t tell the truth from fiction?</p>
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		<title>By: Benobo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Benobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Reuters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Reuters.</p>
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		<title>By: Benobo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Benobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you, Reuters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you, Reuters.</p>
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		<title>By: ShameReuters</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>ShameReuters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you, Mr Lloyd!

I have long admired the professionalism and accuracy of Reuters reports - until now. The entire content of this article - which is based on a mix of personal speculation and the regurgitation of half-truths - is so short on facts. Shame on you and for lowering the standards of quality journalism at Reuters!

In case you have forgotten, Mr Lloyd, please take a good look again at this video of Reuters staff. Do you recall how the US military claimed that ALL the dead - including your two colleagues - were &quot;insurgents&quot;? Why did Reuters not uncover this story, may we ask? Would the truth behind the deaths of your colleagues have come to light without Julian Assange? 

Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

This next report, provides actual factual evidence that counters your entire argument, Mr Lloyd. Please note that this work is based on exposing the activities of the Chinese government which, based on your logic, should be a friend of Mr Assange. Clearly, the exposure of these particular cables is NOT on the scale of the leak of 400,000 classified Iraq war documents. However, during this past decade Mr Lloyd, has China been involved in any war that has resulted in the death of 100,000 - 110,000 civilians? Or does Reuters know something that we don&#039;t on this matter? And is China involved in the longest war in US history: Afghanistan? Indeed, is China involved in any of the biggest wars of our times? Perhaps Reuters knows something that we don&#039;t on these matters? 

WikiLeaks, Chinese Soft Power &amp; A Small Amazonian Country:
https://vimeo.com/44861089

Would you and Reuters kindly reflect on whether the &quot;journalism&quot; as expressed in this piece reflects well either on Reuters or on your own profession? The journalism created, to my mind, looks very much like, to use your words - &quot;full of compromise&quot; -and your entire argument is indeed the very opposite of what Assange and WikiLeaks stands for - to use your words again: &quot;a handmaiden to power&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you, Mr Lloyd!</p>
<p>I have long admired the professionalism and accuracy of Reuters reports &#8211; until now. The entire content of this article &#8211; which is based on a mix of personal speculation and the regurgitation of half-truths &#8211; is so short on facts. Shame on you and for lowering the standards of quality journalism at Reuters!</p>
<p>In case you have forgotten, Mr Lloyd, please take a good look again at this video of Reuters staff. Do you recall how the US military claimed that ALL the dead &#8211; including your two colleagues &#8211; were &#8220;insurgents&#8221;? Why did Reuters not uncover this story, may we ask? Would the truth behind the deaths of your colleagues have come to light without Julian Assange? </p>
<p>Collateral Murder &#8211; Wikileaks &#8211; Iraq<br />
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3 G0</a></p>
<p>This next report, provides actual factual evidence that counters your entire argument, Mr Lloyd. Please note that this work is based on exposing the activities of the Chinese government which, based on your logic, should be a friend of Mr Assange. Clearly, the exposure of these particular cables is NOT on the scale of the leak of 400,000 classified Iraq war documents. However, during this past decade Mr Lloyd, has China been involved in any war that has resulted in the death of 100,000 &#8211; 110,000 civilians? Or does Reuters know something that we don&#8217;t on this matter? And is China involved in the longest war in US history: Afghanistan? Indeed, is China involved in any of the biggest wars of our times? Perhaps Reuters knows something that we don&#8217;t on these matters? </p>
<p>WikiLeaks, Chinese Soft Power &#038; A Small Amazonian Country:<br />
https://vimeo.com/44861089</p>
<p>Would you and Reuters kindly reflect on whether the &#8220;journalism&#8221; as expressed in this piece reflects well either on Reuters or on your own profession? The journalism created, to my mind, looks very much like, to use your words &#8211; &#8220;full of compromise&#8221; -and your entire argument is indeed the very opposite of what Assange and WikiLeaks stands for &#8211; to use your words again: &#8220;a handmaiden to power&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: KDaltas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>KDaltas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allegations, not &#039;charges&#039;. There is quite a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allegations, not &#8216;charges&#8217;. There is quite a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: RhisiartGwilym</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>RhisiartGwilym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly pathetic stuff. And this is the Director of Journalism at this Institute. Repeats the current corporate-media echo-chamber lie about the non-existent &#039;charges&#039; against JA. There are NO charges, John. Take a look at the facts. Get it right, if you&#039;re going to teach others how to do journalism. 

Standard sloppy inaccuracy for corpohacks, I guess: facts can be treated with slipshod indifference as long as you toe the necessary lines-de-jure that your corporate owners prefer; and think the necessary right-thinking thoughts that they like, spontaneously, without censorship. 

No wonder a new breed of independent genuine journalists, represented very well by JA, is appearing to supersede these useless, blinkered, over-paid, over-promoted, line-toeing, craven, shagged-out time-serving mediocrities. 

This comment posted both on MediaLens Message Board and below the original LLoyd hatchet job -- well wooden-spoon job really; too blunt and weak to amount to a hatchet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly pathetic stuff. And this is the Director of Journalism at this Institute. Repeats the current corporate-media echo-chamber lie about the non-existent &#8216;charges&#8217; against JA. There are NO charges, John. Take a look at the facts. Get it right, if you&#8217;re going to teach others how to do journalism. </p>
<p>Standard sloppy inaccuracy for corpohacks, I guess: facts can be treated with slipshod indifference as long as you toe the necessary lines-de-jure that your corporate owners prefer; and think the necessary right-thinking thoughts that they like, spontaneously, without censorship. </p>
<p>No wonder a new breed of independent genuine journalists, represented very well by JA, is appearing to supersede these useless, blinkered, over-paid, over-promoted, line-toeing, craven, shagged-out time-serving mediocrities. </p>
<p>This comment posted both on MediaLens Message Board and below the original LLoyd hatchet job &#8212; well wooden-spoon job really; too blunt and weak to amount to a hatchet.</p>
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		<title>By: Radguy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Radguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From paragraph one onwards, your work is as prejudicial as Gillard&#039;s comments declaring Assange a criminal.

He has not been charged. You have made a fundamental error of journalism here which should see you kicked out of the profession. You are not a professional, you are a spinner.

There&#039;s a good L7 song which your article has triggered and set to repeat in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From paragraph one onwards, your work is as prejudicial as Gillard&#8217;s comments declaring Assange a criminal.</p>
<p>He has not been charged. You have made a fundamental error of journalism here which should see you kicked out of the profession. You are not a professional, you are a spinner.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a good L7 song which your article has triggered and set to repeat in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Amonaghan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/john-lloyd/2012/06/25/julian-assanges-fall-from-the-heavens/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Amonaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assange has NOT been charged. That you can conveniently overlook that fact in your smear shows why we need whistleblowers, Wikileaks and real journalists in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assange has NOT been charged. That you can conveniently overlook that fact in your smear shows why we need whistleblowers, Wikileaks and real journalists in this world.</p>
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