Comments on: A church married to the wrong side of history

By: pCohee

pCohee — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:25:18 +0000

Sir: If you really believe that there are opposing sides of history, you leave little chance for reasoned discussion.

By: Ounbbl

Ounbbl — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:27:26 +0000

Is this a page from Gay Reuter News?

By: tx-peasant

tx-peasant — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:27:11 +0000

No, the welfare state that forces already angry taxpayers to subsidizes immoral behavior to buy votes is on the wrong side of history my friend.

By: whirichardson

whirichardson — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:25:43 +0000

How does one reconcile the basic passages in the Old and New Testament warning against sexual sin then?

Note that many other sins are lumped in with the sins of homosexuality so it’s not like it’s being highlighted or singled out as some worse sin but still the words and intent appear very clear it is a sin in both books of the Bible.

re: 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1, Leviticus 20:13 or Leviticus 18:22

By: keebo

keebo — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:14:57 +0000

Homosexuality was widely practiced in ancient Greek and Roman times. It went away and has only now re-emerged.
This author seems to have a shallow point of reference and little regard for history and I believe his opinion is only wishful thinking. This current acceptance of the abnormal (abnormal it is compared to the vast majority) will be fleeting.

By: brotherkenny4

brotherkenny4 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:59:38 +0000

Most priests and many conservatives have learned to suppress the urges within themselves (although occasionally they stray). This is why they don’t see what they are doing as wrong. They themselves have had to suppress this devil that lives inside them, and they see this as a victory of their will over that of satan. So, you see, they cannot have sympathy for the weak who cannot suppress their own predisposition. They have done it, so why can’t everyone else.

By: COindependent

COindependent — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:57:51 +0000

An entire political and cultural agenda driven by who one sleeps with? That has a lot of substance (sarcasm intended) And, explain to me how a continent where AIDS is pandemic (a disease resulting from indiscriminate male homosexual behavior) is a not “crime against humanity”. But it’s okay to spend billion of health care dollars to remedy a situation that could otherwise be addressed if your behavior involved just a little common sense. Then again, that would be infringing on some self-defined “right”.

Keep promoting the theology of actions without consequences. Me, me, me, me….it’s all about you and your feelings. I don’t hate you. In fact, I really don’t care who you sleep with, but don’t ask me to endorse the institutionalization of your behavior, and stop waving your proclivities in my face. I already know your gay–so what’s the big deal? I really don’t care! “Look at me, Look at me. I’m different than you. I have friends who think the same way I do. We have a parade every year where we can misbehave in public.”

Feeling is not thinking–but in your self-centered world it’s easier to demonize those who disagree with you than to have an informed conversation. Go ahead and continue to attack and demonize–as it serves to magnify the shallowness of your argument.

By: JL4

JL4 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:15:41 +0000

Churches can be anti-gay. I have no problem with that, and if they want to refuse to perform same-sex marriages in a religious ceremony, that’s fine by me and most of the same-sex couples I’ve known.

The state, however, should (and will) take a different stance. Same-sex couples should enjoy all of the civil rights that traditional couples enjoy.

To scythe, saying that life will be “ice cream and holidays forever” if not guided by the morality of the Christian bible is ridiculous. As an atheist, the lack of “Christian Law” doesn’t inspire anyone I know (Christian or not) to run out committing crimes against my fellow man, or to stop questioning responsibility for personal behavior.

Shouldn’t Christians question divorce? Christian vows are pretty clear – “Till death do us part” and yet divorces are only slightly less common than marriage. Christians take full advantage of civil law in those circumstances, when the husband has been diddling his secretary perhaps.”Thou shalt not commit adultery” is tossed out the window in favor of civil options and the personal liberty of engaging in those same vows again – perhaps with the pretty secretary, or the buff cabana boy. So, sorry, Western jurisprudence is not entirely “welded onto the traditions of the 10 Commandments”. Two more examples: slavery and Red Lobster.

Homosexuality and same-sex marriage is a “sin” cherry-picked by Christianity as a target for gaining control and flexing their muscles. The author’s overall point is correct – they’ll lose.

By: scythe

scythe — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:03:11 +0000

the article points the finger at the institutions

but avoids the problem of the underlying belief in the bible, the commandments, scripture, articles of faith etc

western jurisprudence is welded onto the traditions of
the 10 commandments

only samrch picked this up

inevitably the article is suggesting christians reform their bible into the Church of All Morals
nothing is questionable, ice cream and holidays forever
a rather pointless exercise from a religious perspective

marriage is only one step towards a bigger issue,
the mainstreaming of homosexual values through parenting rights

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/fa mily/item/13411-children-seized-from-mot her-in-london-borough-awarded-to-homosex uals

By: ARJTurgot2

ARJTurgot2 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:29:05 +0000

Right, the Church is on one side, the Enlightenment is on the other. This is not news.